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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=C3=B8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: Screen management in C Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 20:25:41 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 32 Message-ID: <vknk2m$3tu67$1@dont-email.me> References: <87o70xgq62.fsf@lucy.meyer21c.net> <vkmge7$3ltsp$1@dont-email.me> <vkmjlq$3mm86$1@dont-email.me> <vkmvfk$3p9tn$1@dont-email.me> <c826317e2aa20dea0e117313f6a4d153125915a2.camel@munted.eu> <vkngv8$3tu66$1@dont-email.me> <vknj5l$3jnac$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 02:25:42 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8804232ec0547ffff5e46887f2558824"; logging-data="4126919"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX196qv57ngiv8OekYOymRtFekjzI/K6VEf8=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:/ooBbpxD5Ya5djJQIN3cy/a8OMQ= In-Reply-To: <vknj5l$3jnac$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2433 On 12/27/2024 8:10 PM, Chris Townley wrote: > On 28/12/2024 00:32, Arne Vajhøj wrote: >> On 12/27/2024 3:54 PM, Single Stage to Orbit wrote: >>> On Fri, 2024-12-27 at 14:34 -0500, Arne Vajhøj wrote: >>>> But then a full screen VT UI is a concept that has been obsolete >>>> for 30 years, so maybe there is little point. >>> >>> People are still writing apps using the console. >> >> There is still a need to write command line tools. Mostly >> for system administrators and developers, but still there. >> >> But full screen VT UI applications? I doubt many of those >> get written today. Whether custom code using SMG$ or one >> of TDMS/FMS/DECForms. The end users expectations for UI >> has changed. GUI or Web. >> > In the mid naughties I used SMG to provide a better UI for HHTs on the > shop floor - using a terminal emulator on the HHTs > > Far better than the earlier implementation. > > This was in Basic, where I wrote a couple of functions to front end it, > then called the SMG routines. > > Went down well on the shop floor Before VB6/Delphi, Web and smartphones/tablets, then full screen VT UI was what most people were using - X GUI was rare. But that was then. Arne