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On 2024-12-28, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On 2024-12-27 21:41, RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-12-27, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>> On 2024-12-24 04:39, RonB wrote:
>>>
>>> < snip >
>>>
>>>>> Well, I can tell you that there are certain advanced features people
>>>>> need in Microsoft Office which seem to be unavailable to LibreOffice
>>>>> users. Of course, they might just be somewhere else in the open suite,
>>>>> like when I received a document with forms in .DOCX and had someone here
>>>>> convert it to the equivalent in .ODT. At the same time, I don't use any
>>>>> of the advanced features so LibreOffice has always been more than enough
>>>>> for me. The only reason I use Microsoft's suite is because I got a
>>>>> license for cheap. I can also use the 365 license I get from work for
>>>>> free. Since I routinely receive documents from them to fill out, I have
>>>>> no proper use for Libre.
>>>>
>>>> I guess I've never had any use for these advanced features. All I know is
>>>> that, when we would get Word Documents at the print shop, we had a heck of a
>>>> time cleaning them up for Desk Top Application. Lot of hidden code.
>>>
>>> I believe that is part of the reason why legal offices still prefer
>>> WordPerfect Office over Microsoft's software.
>> 
>> I think WordPerfect also has special templates for lawyers. And, I'm
>> guessing, it's inertia thing again. WordPerfect got popular for lawyers, so
>> they keep using it.
>
> That's probably true. I never got too far into using it because the 
> "legal" license I bought on eBay turned out not to be legal. One update 
> later and poof, no more functionality.

Sorry to hear that. I, personally, never was a big WordPerfect fan. My 
"favorite" Windows word processor was WordPro, but usually used WordStar 7 
for DOS. (Still do in DOBox-X.)

>>>>>> In my opinion M$ Office is bloated crapware that tries to "think" for you.
>>>>>> But I was only occasionally forced to use it so I never got in stuck in the
>>>>>> "inertia loop."
>>>>>
>>>>> I would extend that to Windows itself too. The way it has implemented AI
>>>>> makes it clear that they don't want you thinking. Of course, there are
>>>>> certain places where I appreciate the AI like in Brave Search or Bing
>>>>> Search. There, if there is a certain technological question like what is
>>>>> the benefit of one monitor over another, the engine quickly scours the
>>>>> web for information and summarizes the data for me. That is much easier
>>>>> than navigating to a bunch of websites which cannon a series of ads at me.
>>>>
>>>> I turn off AI in my searches. I don't know about Brave or Bing, but in
>>>> Firefox you just add the udm14 add-on and AI results are gone in Google.
>>>
>>> I'm a big fan of Brave's AI, to be honest. When I was looking up the
>>> fTPM problem I mentioned in a previous post, it saved me a lot of time
>>> by telling me what people were saying, how to fix it, whether or not
>>> Linux is affected and so on. Had I been forced to read all that content
>>> on my own, I'd probably get discouraged. In fact, I might never have
>>> learned that the Linux kernel actually addresses the problem and allows
>>> you to circumvent the issue entirely.
>> 
>> I've been using Firefox for so long that I don't think I would want to move
>> away from it. I can customize so it's very minimal and that's something I
>> _do_ do on new installs, get Firefox working the way I like it.
>> 
>> My impression of AI is just not very good. It always sounds like an
>> informercial to me. And it pisses me off that these AI server farms use as
>> much power as whole cities and not a damn peep (or very muted whining) about
>> it from the climate screechers — who keep trying to get us (personally) to
>> use less and less power. I guess the AI server farms are more important than
>> people.
>
> I swore not to use Firefox but it looks like it's the best browser on 
> Linux if you don't want your dGPU to be used needlessly, and if you want 
> gestures to work as they should. Using Firefox, I can flick two fingers 
> back and forth to go to the previous web page or the next one, but it 
> doesn't work anywhere else. If I use Brave, it ignores the fact that I 
> don't want hardware acceleration too whereas Firefox respects my wishes.

My brother is the same way about firefox. I've tried Brave and several 
others, but I guess I'm a creature of habit. I don't do any of the fancy 
gestures, however. And uBlock Origin (the full version) works well in 
Firefox.

>>>>>> My wife uses Power Point. She originally used it because a template she
>>>>>> purchased only worked with Power Point. Now she's used to using it, so
>>>>>> she'll probably keep using it as long as she needs to prepare classes. Just
>>>>>> the way it works. People use what they're used to using. Inertia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's why so many still use the inferior Microsoft Windows crap OS.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't argue that habit plays a big part in what people choose to use.
>>>>> At the same time, that's why I usually load Linux Mint for whatever user
>>>>> I help: it's not that unfamiliar.
>>>>
>>>> Linux Mint is often suggested for those moving from Windows because it does
>>>> work similarly (at least at the Desktop level). I'm sure that design is not
>>>> by accident.
>>>
>>> I chose Fedora this time around because www.asus-linux.org offers a
>>> comprehensive guide for the distribution to make sure that everything
>>> you want works as it should on your hardware. I chose the KDE flavour
>>> and it more or less behaves like a snappier Windows.
>> 
>> I could use Fedora (especially with the Cinnamon spin) without much trouble.
>> Synaptic is better than Fedora's install application and Linux Mint has nice
>> little utilities built-in, but (for when it matters) you're trading "cutting
>> edge" for a little more convenience. (A trade I don't mind making.) In
>> Linux Mint, if I install EasyEffects (for example), I'll have to use FlatPak
>> instead of the repository (at least in version 21). So there's pros and
>> cons.
>
> You have the same kind of choice in Fedora as it relates to Flatpaks and 
> the rest. It's actually kind of annoying when you're looking for 
> applications because you're never sure which version will integrate best 
> with the rest of your system.

I'm figuring out FlatPaks. Basically all the configuration files are in 
/.var (in your home directory) and /var in the root directory. I still try 
to find the application in the repository first.

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