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From: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
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Subject: Re: We have a new standard!
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 16:20:57 +0100
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On 28/12/2024 11:19, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 21:51:10 -0500
> Sam <sam@email-scan.com> gabbled:
>> Stefan Ram writes:
>>
>>>   According to one web site, C++23 (ISO/IEC 14882:2024) was released
>>>   October 19, 2024.
>>>
>>>   (Sorry if it was mentioned here then, and I just did not notice!)
>>
>> Hip-hip-hooray! Finally, finally they addressed the long-standing 
>> criticism of C++ being too trivial and too simple, and a kids' 
>> language. At last, there's some meat on those bones. Watch out, Java! 
>> There's a new boss in town. Real programming languages' specifications 
>> are measured in pounds, and not a page count.
> 
> Watch out Java? Watch out Perl more like! The title of most write only
> language could soon change!
> 
> Being serious, I haven't even checked whats new in it but going by C++ 2020
> it'll be yet more syntactic soup to support features absolutely no one 
> outside
> of ivory tower academic discussions asked for. It'll just add yet 
> morecomplexity to compilers, hence more potential bugs and make the C++ 
> learning
> curve even steeper meaning yet more new programmers abandon it - or don't
> even start - for languages such as Python.
> 

Ah, yes - the classic well-reasoned argument.  Why would one ever want 
to /look/ at the new standard before condemning it?

It's inevitable that most people won't have need of most of the new 
features - C++ is a big language, and has a big standard library, and 
few people use more than a fraction of it.  But all the new features 
will be of some use to some people.  (It's a lot like Python in that 
aspect.)