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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: Patching TPU innertube
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 10:37:03 -0500
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On 12/27/2024 11:02 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 21:40:21 -0500, Frank Krygowski
> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 12/27/2024 2:01 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>> On 12/27/2024 1:28 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Given what I've read about violins (Stradivarius can't be told from
>>>> modern ones in blind hearing tests)
>>>
>>> horseshit. Someone with training and experience can most certainly tell
>>> the difference in the tonal quality between a Stradivarius and even a
>>> high quality modern violin.
>>
>> https://www.science.org/content/article/million-dollar-strads-fall-modern-violins-blind-sound-check
>>
>>>> and wines (cheap wines really light up pleasure centers in the brain
>>>> if tasters are told the wine is expensive),
>>>
>>> more horseshit. Someone with training and experience can certainly tell
>>> the difference in the flavor profiles, especially if you tried to dupe
>>> them with a Gallo.
>> https://money.com/expensive-price-tag-cheap-wine-brain-placebo-effect/
> 
> I notice hat you didn't quote the portion of  your reference that
> states
> "One big grain of salt? Neuroscientists don't all agree that using
> brain structure to infer behavior or personality makes for sound
> science—and Plassmann and Weber acknowledge in their study that some
> researchers are skeptical of that methodology in general."

You're criticizing one detail, the attempt to use advanced neuroscience 
to document the different perceptions.

But there have been many, many tests using simpler methods that returned 
the same general results.

https://phys.org/news/2011-04-expensive-inexpensive-wines.html

https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2021/03/cheap-wine-tastes-better-when-were-told-its-expensive-new-study-claims/

People are easily duped by advertising, fashion, placebos, etc. Remember 
back when bicycling magazines rhapsodized about the magical "feel" of a 
titanium frame?

But it's still true that painting a bike red does make it faster. (Right?)

-- 
- Frank Krygowski