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From: zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com>
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On 12/27/2024 6:00 PM, cyclintom wrote:
> On Tue Dec 24 12:48:52 2024 zen cycle  wrote:
>> On 12/24/2024 12:17 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>
>>> You just witnessed Flunky and Liebermann making a big deal out of spelling Techtronix correctly while saying nothing about the fact that the wire fault detector they were touting worked exactly the same way my home made instrument worked and and they claimed wouldn't work.3
>>
>> Blatant lies.
>> - We've repeatedly stated the piece of test equipment in fact does _not_
>> work like your mickey-mouse version.
>> - We've repeatedly stated your version doesn't work.
>>
>>>   Liebermann, Flunky and Krygowski are life's losers, though at least Flunky and Krygowski managed to earn a living.
>>>
>>>
>>> Right here in my closet I have one of the best Techtronix oscilloscopes made
>>
>> no, you don't. You might have a 20-year old production technician model.
>> The current high-end Tektronix scopes base in the $10K range, the best
>> ones base in the $40-50K range.
>>
>> https://www.tek.com/en/products/oscilloscopes
>>
>> Of course, you could settle it by posting a picture of you holding this
>> magnificent piece of equipment with the model number clearly showing.
>>
>> My guess, if you have one at all, is one of these
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/296591324228
>>
>>> and a dozen to one, neither Flunky nor Liebermann could even turn it on or use it properly.
>>
>> Considering I hired and trained test technicians to work on 622 MB SONET
>> systems when I was a test department supervisor, I'm willing to bet I
>> know more of it's capabilities than you do.
>>
>>> But they can spell the name correctly and that is important, right?
>>
>> I got a few resumes with spelling as bad as yours. I rejected them
>> outright. If the candidate couldn't take the time to get the resume
>> proof read it told me they didn't have the diligence to be a good
>> technician.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> If you rejected any technician because of their spelling it shows what you're made of. 

yes, integrity. If the candidate couldn't be bothered to proof read 
their resume, it was an indication that they couldn't be bothered to 
validate the test requirements. It's an indication of a lazy and 
apathetic individual.

> Nothing of value could be done in electronics without technicians and all they need to do is be able to explain to the engineer what is wrong and NOT write a treatise on it because you yourself are incapable of understanding them.

Ah, so in tommy world an engineer can't figure out what's wrong with a 
design, it takes a technician to explain it to them...got it.

> 
> The new world order is to give technician work to engineers rather than technicians. That is why they have board layout software. But board layout software is so rife with bugs that you make little more than junk using it. The last board that was laid out by software had an INTERUPT line running to the interupt pin on the microprocessor 

There is not a microprocessor that has ever been designed with an 
"interupt" signal.

> via the entire outer edge of the board where RF signals would force false interrupts. 

Easily mitigated with proper shielding, though I'm not surprised you 
don't know that.

> It also used an interrupt pin on the CPU as a data line and one of the data lines as an interupt input. 

There's your problem, sparky, If you tried to tie an interrupt pin to 
something called "interupt" the program would not have interpreted it as 
an interrupt and would have assumed you had a data signal called 
"interupt".

Computer Science 101 - consistency in terms. But according you you, 
spelling shouldn't matter.

> And this was the latest and greatest board layout programs in 2008.

Let me guess, it was you running the program, correct? IOW, That's a 
sign of an engineer that didn't know what they were doing, aka GIGO. 
Gee, maybe if when you entered all the parameters into the program you 
used the word "interrupt" instead of "interupt" you might have yielded 
better results. Bad things happen in designs when you don't follow the 
design rules.

Besides that, are you under some delusion that CAD software hasn't 
progressed in the last 15 years? Let me be the first to inform you, it 
has, rather dramatically.

> 
> You are so full of shit about the Techtronix wire fault detector 

Then prove it. Show me a link anywhere that shows how to use PWM to test 
cables.

> it is nothing more than your stupid claim that you don't program because it is so boring.

Sure tommy, programming is the most exciting aspect of electronic 
development! <YAWN>

> The photographs PLAINLY showed that it was using variable wavelength signals to detect wire faults. 

lol...no it didn't.

1) it varies the pulse period, not the wavelength. These are two very 
different things, though I'm not surprised you don't know the difference.

b) The pulse period will vary as a function of the delay time of the 
returned pulse.  This is _not_ PWM.

> It SET the signal to reflect off of the end of the wire and intermediate reflections or total wirelength shown on the signal and on the actual length of wire is childishly simple. 

lol...The grammatical massacre of that sentence aside, no, it didn't. It 
sends out a pulse, it measures how long it takes for a reflection to 
come back. The tester doesn't set any parameter of the pulse unless it 
doesn't see a reflection. Can you tell us what the reflection is 
supposed to represent? Sure you can....lol

> Too bad you're having so much trouble with these things.

No tommy, you have no understanding of the fundamentals of either PWM or 
TDR. Your method won't work, and your misinterpretation of the Tektronix 
webpage is proof enough of that.

> 
> You TAUGHT technicians how to use a fully automated HP test instrument? 

nope.

> Or perhaps you taught an even MORE impressive Techtronix Sonet fully automated tester neither of which you have the slighest knowledge of the workings of.

1) it's SONET, not Sonet. It's an acronym. I know what it means without 
having to look it up.

b) Neither Techtronix or Tektronix was making a SONET test set at the 
time, and no one (including HP) was making an automated version.

3rd, Given that I was on the development team for the 2nd generation 
version of the SONET Maintenance Test Set, I'm quite sure I have a more 
than the slightest bit of knowledge of their "workings". Or perhaps 
you'd like to enter a discussion on transport layer protocols? lol... 
that should be fun for a guy who thinks  226/312 is a 25/75 split.

> But you CAN spell Techtronix. I am really impressed with such a level of ignorance from you.

I see, in tommy world, correct spelling is a sign of ignorance...got it.

> 
> All it took was to LOOK at the SIGNALS and you ould have seen how it works if you had the least competency. 

You're right, it's obvious to anyone with the slightest bit of 
competence. The fact that you so glaringly misunderstood it is proof of 
you lack of competence.

> But you were so excited that somehoe Liebermann proved me wrong that you just HAD to jump in with yet another ignorant claim.

It wasn't 'somehow'. It was childs play for anyone with any real 
experience and/or education in the field.

> By the way dumbshit, this is Usenet, not a spelling bee. 

Words and spelling matter, especially if you insist on coding a 
microprocessor with an "interupt" line.

> If the most you can say for yourself is that you  can spell, you're nothing more than a teacher's pet. 

It's a good thing I can say a lot more for myself that that, and I will 
continue to criticize your spelling. A few typos now and then are no big 
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