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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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On 12/28/2024 9:45 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 12/27/2024 10:40 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 12:35:31 -0500, Frank Krygowski
>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/27/2024 9:44 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> ... shot with a gun in your home ...
>>>>
>>>> The question is whose firearm?  More likely by your own 
>>>> by negligence/
>>>> misadventure or by the invader's weapon?  Decide and 
>>>> either arm yourself
>>>> or not depending on your own risks and your own 
>>>> assessment of those risks.
>>>
>>> As I recall, a large portion of the gun deaths in the 
>>> home happen to
>>> wives or partners of men who own guns. Angry fights turn 
>>> into shootings.
>>>
>>> And as I recall, those are much more common than armed 
>>> home invasions.
>>> Those are actually quite rare.
>>>
>>> As John has related in some detail, if someone does burst 
>>> into your home
>>> and threatens violence, having a gun in the home is very 
>>> unlikely to help.
>>>
>>
>> No, that isn't true. I had a gun which was stored in the 
>> bedroom. I
>> was sitting, eating, at the table, in a different room 
>> when the three
>> guys kicked the door in and rushed into the house. Had I 
>> been in the
>> bed room when it happened it would have been a different 
>> story.
> 
> "Coulda, woulda, shoulda..."
> 
> You had a gun in your house, probably for "protection." You 
> are one of the tiny percentage of Americans who ever suffer 
> a true home invasion. Your gun did you no good, because you 
> don't go around inside your home with your gun always within 
> easy reach. That latter fact is true of almost all gun owners.
> 
> Deal with it.
> 
>> The question of whether a gun in the house is useful is a 
>> far more
>> complex problem then one single incident can explain. See
>> https://www.heritage.org/gun-rights/commentary/11-more- 
>> cases-which-responsible-gun-owners-saved-lives
> 
> Ah, eleven anecdotes, doubtlessly found by enthusiastic 
> search! Versus many, many hundreds of data points collected 
> in unbiased and disciplined scientific ways.
> 

The Justice Department disagrees, citing 100,000 events per 
year of defensive firearm use. And they clearly openly 
undercount.

-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971