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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer Subject: Re: Open Source does not mean easily re-compile-able Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 14:26:22 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 37 Message-ID: <vkpjcu$fqlj$1@dont-email.me> References: <uu54la$3su5b$6@dont-email.me> <vkmbsj$3kvjq$1@dont-email.me> <vkme08$280or$1@news.xmission.com> <wwvh66p9ntv.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <vkmjos$284i0$1@news.xmission.com> <86wmflc83k.fsf@example.com> <vkncr9$3suk2$1@dont-email.me> <vkne4c$3t9p2$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 20:26:23 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e585bd27cc1988dd577de2201267807e"; logging-data="518835"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/dwxE0WRCmwlPDfcccv9/fpMChVHEtSBI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:DwnQQJVjBw6FMO6YaYfW58Th6e4= In-Reply-To: <vkne4c$3t9p2$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3007 On 12/27/24 18:44, Janis Papanagnou wrote: > On 28.12.2024 00:22, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote: >>> [...] >> >> No need to be skeptical, we live in modern ages >> where things have been made quite convenient for us. > > LOL. :-) > >> Compiling Thunderbird should be very easy indeed >> when we use Linux distro's package management. > > You expect _users_ of tools to use a _development_ > environment to fix *inherent* shortcomings of a tool? > (Shortcomings that should not be there in the first > place!) IIRC, this is in reference to my difficulty when Thunderbird changed the Reply button to mean "Reply" rather than "Followup", and instead added a new button that is labelled "Followup". I have never complained about that change - it was an entirely sensible one. I'm just having trouble re-training myself to use the newer, more sensible interface in a few years after spending a couple of decades using the older, less sensible one. And I fully appreciate other people's irritation at my difficulty with re-training. I wouldn't mind if they reinstated the ability, which existed in older versions of Thunderbird, to rearrange the list of buttons that are displayed. I do complain about the removal of that customization ability. I don't want to go back to those older versions because that would mean undoing other improvements. I'm especially worried about undoing security bug fixes. I don't like the idea of creating my own personal version of Thunderbird by modifying their source code, because it means I would have to re-do the build every time they put out a new version. I want quick and easy upgrades to newer versions, especially security bug fixes, and that desire conflicts with the desire for customization.