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Subject: Re: interesting article on the understanding modern movie dialogue problem
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2024 16:02:17 +1300
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On 2024-12-29 00:39:38 +0000, super70s said:
> On 2024-12-29 00:09:34 +0000, Your Name said:
>> On 2024-12-28 22:53:31 +0000, Pluted Pup said:
>>> On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 01:36:52 -0800, super70s wrote:
>>> 
>>>> https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/story/why-movie-dialogue-is-so-hard-to-understand-these-days-163708191.html 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I didn't take the guy's Twitter poll but I would've been included in that 83%.
>>> 
>>> It is a misleading question. My answer would be sometimes
>>> I use subtitles, not whether I use them or not.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I don't think he mentions anything about a setting that comes with some
>>>> Blu-Ray or DVD players -- in my old Panasonic Blue-Ray there's a
>>>> "Dialog Enhancer" setting that is supposed to pump up the dialogue (in
>>>> the center channel of a 4-speaker setup) and I have it turned on but I
>>>> still find myself using subtitles often.
>>> 
>>> "Filmmakers have leaned into the rise of special effects, making 
>>> explosions, fights, and gunfire significantly louder. This makes
>>> dialogue seem that much quieter."
>>> 
>>> This is quite dumb, there's nothing "realistic" about the
>>> shots and explosions on screen, engineering is incapable
>>> of recording and reproducing such sounds accurately,
>>> they are always far louder than they possibly can be on screen,
>>> as if anyone would want to hear that in a movie theater.
>>> So the excuse to muffle voices to make it more "realistic"
>>> doesn't wash.
>>> 
>>> To sum up, the muffled dialog in films is caused by
>>> bad engineering, probably caused by spending too much
>>> money on the project. Over-engineering is caused by
>>> too much money.
>> 
>> There's a similar problem with TV adverts usually being much louder 
>> (despite TV networks claiming otherwise) than the TV show they 
>> interrupt. Thanfully these days we record most of our shows and can 
>> simply fast forward through the adverts anyway.
> 
> Most modern TVs have an AVL (Automatic Volume Level) control in their 
> settings but I've never used it myself.
> 
> My cable provider, a regional outfit, used to be really bad about 
> cranking up the volume on their self-produced local commercials 
> (possibly it wasn't intentional, they just didn't know better) but it's 
> much better nowadays. Probably after several complaints (which included 
> myself).

Supposedly the TV networks already use a similar system at broadcast, 
but it obviously doesn't work very well.