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From: Muttley@dastardlyhq.com
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Subject: Re: We have a new standard!
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2024 09:43:38 -0000 (UTC)
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On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 13:05:37 -0500
Phillip <nntp@fulltermprivacy.com> gabbled:
>On 12/28/24 05:19, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 21:51:10 -0500
>> Sam <sam@email-scan.com> gabbled:
>>> Stefan Ram writes:
>>>
>>>>   According to one web site, C++23 (ISO/IEC 14882:2024) was released
>>>>   October 19, 2024.
>>>>
>>>>   (Sorry if it was mentioned here then, and I just did not notice!)
>>>
>>> Hip-hip-hooray! Finally, finally they addressed the long-standing 
>>> criticism of C++ being too trivial and too simple, and a kids' 
>>> language. At last, there's some meat on those bones. Watch out, Java! 
>>> There's a new boss in town. Real programming languages' specifications 
>>> are measured in pounds, and not a page count.
>> 
>> Watch out Java? Watch out Perl more like! The title of most write only
>> language could soon change!
>> 
>> Being serious, I haven't even checked whats new in it but going by C++ 2020
>> it'll be yet more syntactic soup to support features absolutely no one 
>> outside
>> of ivory tower academic discussions asked for. It'll just add yet 
>> morecomplexity to compilers, hence more potential bugs and make the C++ 
>> learning
>> curve even steeper meaning yet more new programmers abandon it - or don't
>> even start - for languages such as Python.
>> 
>
>I'm still on C++98 and C++03. Everything beyond that is just bloat to 
>me. ;-)

I would say that C++ 11 did improve things particularly wrt the STL and
possibly 2014 was the high point. Beyond that its been as you say pointless
bloat that achieves nothing.