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From: zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: Tom's demons are strong today! Re: RE: Re: Higher Education Is
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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2024 07:40:29 -0500
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On 12/28/2024 3:01 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 11:41:13 -0500, zen cycle
> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 12/27/2024 6:00 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>> The last board that was laid out by software had an INTERUPT line running to the interupt pin on the microprocessor
> 
> If I may interrupt for a moment.
> 
> A chip and a PCB (printed circuit board) are laid out.  It's possible
> that someone might lay out a software flow chart, but I've never seen
> the term used in that manner.
> 
> Reminder:  The surest indications that someone has no experience with
> the technology is the tendency to butcher the spelling, use the wrong
> industry terms and are unfamiliar with the relevant jargon and
> acronyms.
> 
>> There is not a microprocessor that has ever been designed with an
>> "interupt" signal.
> 
> The Intel 8080 two hardware interrupt lines.  NMI was a non-maskable
> interrupt and INTR was a maskable interrupt which has a lower
> priority.
> <https://www.tutorialspoint.com/microprocessor/microprocessor_8086_interrupts.htm>
> 
> The later 8085 had 5 hardware interrupt pins.
> <https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/interrupts-8085-microprocessor/>

You missed the point. I was criticizing his spelling. All 
microprocessors have "interrupt" lines. None have "interupt" lines. If 
one is attempting to write code for a microprocessor and starts writing 
"interupt", they going to have a lot of problems.


> 
>> Computer Science 101 - consistency in terms. But according you you,
>> spelling shouldn't matter.
> 
> I wished it were so.  I've seen far to many terms be re-used and
> technical terms replaced by marketing jargon to allegedly simplify
> things.  Intentionally wrong spelling to avoid trademark infringement
> really irritates me.  Bad spelling would probably disappear if there
> was some means of enforcing correct spelling.  The good news is that
> software is rather sensitive to incorrect spelling of instructions.
> The bad news is that most code generators, compilers and AI
> auto-plagiarizers now include a built in spelling checker. Eventually,
> the documentation will have perfect spelling once AI takes of the tech
> writers job.  Of course, it will still be unintelligible, make little
> sense and resistant to decryption.  I had to deal with such a manual
> when installing a CNC controller where the documentation was probably
> a Google translation from Chinese to English.
> 
>>> And this was the latest and greatest board layout programs in 2008.
> 
> Tom.  What was the name and version of this latest and greatest PCB
> layout program of 2008?
> 
> Diversion:  This is how "real men" did PCB layout on mylar with Bishop
> pads and tape for the traces and red rubylith for the ground pours
> (puddles):
> <https://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/PCB-Layout/>
> Oops... What is a White home sewing caching doing in my web pile? I'll
> fix it later.
> 
>>> You are so full of shit about the Techtronix wire fault detector
>>
>> Then prove it. Show me a link anywhere that shows how to use PWM to test
>> cables.
> 
> For me, Tom's problem is not PWM but rather that Tektronix doesn't
> make a "wire fault detector" but instead makes "cable testers". Plenty
> to choose from:
> <https://www.google.com/search?num=10&q=tektronix+cable+tester&udm=2>
> Again, not knowing the correct terms is a good indication of Tom's
> lack of experience with the technology and devices.
>