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Path: ...!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: The problem with not owning the software Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 08:25:01 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: <vktlct$1i26p$9@dont-email.me> References: <Tn39P.50437$%aWb.4583@fx18.iad> <nuy9P.28629$aTp4.27488@fx09.iad> <vkbuqd$18m92$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> <9OCcnRW7grqkbPT6nZ2dnZfqnPUAAAAA@earthlink.com> <vkfva1$28j6k$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <vkhqif$2hvap$1@dont-email.me> <vkmd9n$3l76a$4@toylet.eternal-september.org> <vko7up$6qks$2@dont-email.me> <ltb26aFov8dU1@mid.individual.net> <fUYbP.143220$bYV2.129957@fx17.iad> <ltbjk1FrgqvU3@mid.individual.net> <zKecnbsivueyNO36nZ2dnZfqn_HTpa6r@earthlink.com> <vks1gq.ufk.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <ltdrjlF7nkqU6@mid.individual.net> <vkso91$12a03$10@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 09:25:02 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4e293484106726790b692de9e9b78369"; logging-data="1640665"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18izAz9ChexkcM0s7WYJpvGNENpI5Y3f7U=" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:SeLiPLZqgCKqyWhKfjLtnDK0vCA= sha1:0MccdBDVlfnwGQiKJXkGks3TZoY= Bytes: 3251 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: > On 12/29/24 4:00 PM, rbowman wrote: >> On 29 Dec 2024 16:39:41 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote: >> >>> And of course I still get the occasional .doc[x] attachment from >>> someone who only *needs* a note-taking program, but only *has* (or knows >>> how to use) Word. Luckily my current Windows 11 seems to grok such >>> files, at least I didn't have to install LibreOffice since I got it, >>> over two years ago. Knock on wood. >> >> That's my annoyance with Excel. Any xls document I've ever gotten was a >> freeform notepad with handy rows. I can't recall ever getting a xls where >> there were any manipulations on the cells. When all you know how to use is >> a hammer... > > That's a very common 'organizer' use case. > > I have some analytically based Excel stuff; it can get involved to build > in certain types of logic (like "last entry" instead of "MAX"). Ditto > for cell formatting which doesn't break from "divide by [no data]". I > don't know how many cells it is, but a couple are over 1MB in size, > including one with 21 tabs plus links to pull in data from other > spreadsheets. > > I have a colleague who's done some amazing stuff in Excel using Visual > Basic Script (VBS); the PC I had at the time would fail just trying to > load the files; his beefy machine he had would take literally hours to > crunch through a set. A quick search shows that I still have an older > copy: it takes up 14.34GB on disk. Youch. Sounds horribly inefficient and virtually impossible to debug. I'd bet a decent python script would do it in minutes, with a tiny footprint and be reliable.