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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Top three reasons for optimism about the ID scam Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:27:08 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 47 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <vkus6c$1ogft$1@dont-email.me> References: <ae1elj1aqlctpvuls9kekqo7ldir21ram7@4ax.com> <vj7ihd$ic2c$1@dont-email.me> <hhrfljhbhokk8mmgjcoiirsskeclpp47cc@4ax.com> <vj9sth$127ja$1@dont-email.me> <soplljdpvuhjjg5e69kvq2ss2taju8h7vc@4ax.com> <vjevec$2r36t$1@dont-email.me> <1n7mljpp33onhujtgp4ltrarl60ejthc4r@4ax.com> <vkkgj1$3558d$1@dont-email.me> <tevvmj92chi3grbmt0mfu427bkh7te6o93@4ax.com> <op32njlu03cnm4e3fpgumtdro2tsbtos80@4ax.com> <vkrqdc$11lp7$2@dont-email.me> <r8u2njlj06i1s3jrhb481udgq5350oa9o8@4ax.com> <g5s4njhc739o9l1aaj1aqrvv52forhnk1j@4ax.com> Reply-To: rokimoto557@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="58454"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:OAVLpZ/YCWZ6PweJtxgiMJID93w= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id D5B4F229782; Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:27:20 -0500 (EST) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FBF5229765 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:27:18 -0500 (EST) by pi-dach.dorfdsl.de (8.18.1/8.18.1/Debian-6~bpo12+1) with ESMTPS id 4BUJRBXM424302 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 30 Dec 2024 20:27:12 +0100 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 838725FD64 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 30 Dec 2024 19:27:09 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/838725FD64; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id 02572DC01A9; Mon, 30 Dec 2024 20:27:08 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 20:27:08 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <g5s4njhc739o9l1aaj1aqrvv52forhnk1j@4ax.com> X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+6OmRsjVUakcK6JNI2LZGnc6/6iOHcHwA= Content-Language: en-US FREEMAIL_FORGED_REPLYTO,FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 5175 On 12/30/2024 4:07 AM, jillery wrote: > On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 16:30:50 +0000, Martin Harran > <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 09:38:20 -0600, RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On 12/29/2024 2:59 AM, jillery wrote: >>>> On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 13:33:45 +0000, Martin Harran >>>> <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm not going to repost all the crap you keep reposting >>>> >>>> >>>> For a refreshing change of pace, follow your own advice and KF "you". >>>> >>> >>> I do not interact with Harran very much, but how long has he been likely >>> insane? You seem to have more experience with him. How insane do you >>> have to be to simply lie about something insane that you have been doing >>> throughout the thread? How insane do you have to be in order to think >>> that removing the evidence means that it doesn't matter? I know that >>> snipping and running is a common dishonest ploy that posters like Nyikos >>> would routinely indulge in, but Harran doesn't seem to be mentally aware >>> of what he is doing. >> >> The best example I see of insanity here is somebody with scientific >> expertise who dismisses the documented conclusions of qualified >> researchers in favour of some guy trying to make a case for >> geocentrism. > > > Once again, follow your own advice... > Projection is something I do not understand. Nyikos would do it routinely. If he was doing something stupid and dishonest someone else had to be guilty of doing it. What I do not get is that the person doing it obviously understands what they are doing well enough to accuse someone else of doing it instead of themselves. Here Harran is the one that can't deal with the evidence even when it comes from his own trusted source, and his means of dealing with it is to remove it and run in denial. I have been the one putting up the evidence, and he has been the one that can't deal with the conclusions of the people that have written up their evaluation of the incidents. Ron Okimoto