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Path: ...!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: The problem with not owning the software Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2024 11:01:01 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: <vl14ft$2a7g9$1@dont-email.me> References: <vko7up$6qks$2@dont-email.me> <ltb26aFov8dU1@mid.individual.net> <fUYbP.143220$bYV2.129957@fx17.iad> <vpm0njh1ebgjs37ohhpq0tbvhq1mutjoac@4ax.com> <II_bP.117623$ZAue.69791@fx12.iad> <75u0nj5lmr8ncph7vdemdtph8r2asc5jh7@4ax.com> <vks3mp$12a03$2@dont-email.me> <vksk07$17k9s$1@dont-email.me> <25l3nj1cmdcvrou8627jsvr3sbjbud2u38@4ax.com> <vkspsj$10jt1$1@dont-email.me> <hor3njhtcnn8nn99bor0bt61tijgf5nf59@4ax.com> <vksvoc$10jt0$1@dont-email.me> <fg24nj5tsg1sdj4lpoibcpmvitp03jveu9@4ax.com> <GgxcP.21637$zX7.13713@fx37.iad> <vkvcth$1s6uj$1@dont-email.me> <vkvf9u$1sirn$2@dont-email.me> <5lIcP.37871$vfee.17463@fx45.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2024 17:01:03 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5072be8dc78519211c0599210f5b13e8"; logging-data="2432521"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18DnNVs53P4cb7ioK3zA89dJklztBo4qkQ=" User-Agent: Ratcatcher/2.0.0.25 (Windows/20130802) Cancel-Lock: sha1:B0mSlxag0aMU7C2qH4LsyvqwyI4= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <5lIcP.37871$vfee.17463@fx45.iad> Bytes: 3788 On Mon, 12/30/2024 9:06 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote: > On 2024-12-30 19:53, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 19:12:32 -0500, Paul wrote: >> >>> https://www.ghacks.net/2022/06/27/bypass-windows-11-microsoft-account-requirement-and-deny-privacy-questions-during-setup-with-rufus/ >>> >>> "Remove requirement for Secure Boot and TPM 2.0" >> >> This is why they say, Windows is a great OS -- if your time is worth >> nothing. > > And there is no reason to believe that circumventing both Secure Boot and TPM will lead to a Windows installation which will respect your decision not to use either feature. Any update you are forced to install might suddenly lock you out of the system. Microsoft confirmed quite recently that despite news that they were easing the TPM requirement, they're not actually planning on doing so. <https://windowsforum.com/threads/windows-11-installation-no-easing-of-hardware-requirements-confirmed.347806/> > > The message here is clear: if you like AMD but don't want fTPM stuttering, your best choice is Linux. > You are aware of course, that inconveniencing large numbers of customers, or even the hint of damage to user data (accessibility), leads to class action lawsuits. People even resorted to small claims courts, to get even with Microsoft. The people in the windows group, do not worry too much about the poorly handled messaging. If they release four P.R. messages, and the message in each one is different, you're free to latch onto one of them and run with it. For the time being, Rufus works. Why does Rufus continue to work ? Do you see the message yet ? The two faces of Microsoft. Microsoft *have* been quietly closing doors behind the scenes. The activity aligns with the directive to "do security". For example, some easy ways of "becoming administrator", so you can recover from deleting administrator by accident, have been removed. In addition, psexec no longer works, and another piece of code that could make you TrustedInstaller, similarly no longer works. these are baby steps, but they're also a "message" to customers at large. Paul