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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: Patching TPU innertube
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:00:00 -0500
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On 12/31/2024 6:25 AM, Catrike Rider wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 17:54:03 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>>
>> I read Frankie's violins. If I remember the test correct it was
>> carried out in a hotel room and the test players got to play each
>> instrument for something like 1 minute.

Perhaps you should read more than one article before wading into a 
discussion you know nothing about.

These tests have been performed many, many times since the 1800s in 
various environments. The most frequent result by far is that 
multi-million dollar Strads are not magic.

 From one of the articles I cited, which you apparently did _not_ read:

" During 1 week in 2012, they invited 10 professional soloists to 
Vincennes, a suburb of Paris, and assembled 13 new violins and nine old 
Italians, including six Stradivariuses and two made by Guarneri del 
Gesús. The researchers did not tell the musicians that they would be 
playing old and new instruments and instructed them to suppose they were 
picking an instrument to use on a tour.

"The violins were winnowed to six old and six new in a double-blind 
listening test judged by the soloists. Then, each of them donned dark 
goggles so they couldn't distinguish the instruments by sight and tested 
out these top fiddles in two 75-minute sessions, one in a small room and 
one in a 300-seat auditorium. (Soloists could also play their own 
instruments for comparison.) After each session, the soloists picked his 
or her four favorites fiddles and rated them on scale of zero to 10 for 
qualities such as articulation, projection, and playability. Finally, 
after the second session, each subject had to guess whether instruments 
in a small selection that included some of their favorites were old or new."

If you read that before, you should have taken notes when reading "75 
minute sessions" and "300-seat auditorium."

>>
>> So what does 1 minute in a hotel room tell you?
> 
> It tells you whatever the people who pay for the study want to tell
> you.

Nothing can be known. All is mystery. Ommmmm...


-- 
- Frank Krygowski