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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: The problem with not owning the software Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2024 19:32:19 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 50 Message-ID: <vl22ei$2eucj$2@dont-email.me> References: <Tn39P.50437$%aWb.4583@fx18.iad> <vk5vjq$3v34m$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <nuy9P.28629$aTp4.27488@fx09.iad> <vkbuqd$18m92$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> <9OCcnRW7grqkbPT6nZ2dnZfqnPUAAAAA@earthlink.com> <vkfva1$28j6k$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <vkhqif$2hvap$1@dont-email.me> <vkmd9n$3l76a$4@toylet.eternal-september.org> <vkvc2e$1rt3s$2@dont-email.me> <vkvfl8$1sirn$5@dont-email.me> <vl05rf$24iuj$1@dont-email.me> <ltiuohF2k4sU2@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2025 01:32:18 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="cbac8ea9f1ed3cc8068a7bfc433f2536"; logging-data="2587027"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19RMRON6P4cG55fPtYqUGf0" User-Agent: Betterbird (Windows) Cancel-Lock: sha1:OCfEjhjvUoKfiOmYoxk3PtfSRls= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <ltiuohF2k4sU2@mid.individual.net> On 12/31/2024 2:25 PM, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 02:18:09 -0500, DFS wrote: > >> On 12/30/2024 7:59 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 18:58:06 -0500, DFS wrote: >>> >>>> If you ever do need to automate office software or build custom >>>> applications, you'll find that MS Office and VBA is extremely superior >>>> to ALL other office software. >>> >>> Unfortunately, no. >> >> You have NO idea what you're talking about. >> >> >> > Even Microsoft realizes that VBA is crap, which is why it is offering >> > Python access to Excel users -- at a cost, of course. >> >> Python can't come close to replacing VBA (and vice versa of course). > > Esri did a good job of replacing VBA. > > https://www.esri.com/arcgis-blog/products/arcgis-desktop/3d-gis/arcgis- > desktop-and-vba-moving-forward/?rmedium=redirect&rsource=blogs.esri.com/ > esri/arcgis/2016/11/14/arcgis-desktop-and-vba-moving-forward > > They had their own scripting language, Avenue, and switched to VBA over 20 > years ago, > > https://www.esri.com/news/arcnews/fall02articles/new-tool.html The best embedded scripting language I came across was Borland ObjectPAL (a derivative of Delphi), included with Borland Paradox for Windows in the early-mid 90s. PDoxWin lives on in WordPerfect Office; not sure if it still uses ObjectPAL. WP includes a limited VBA. > For a while VBA and Python coexisted, but VBA was phased out. Of what? > Enjoy living in the past. VBA is thriving in Office 2024 and 365. Get with the present.