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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Subject: Re: Joel gets a taste of reality
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2025 16:33:00 -0800
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On 2025-01-01 15:58, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>>> So to exactly what "punch" did Samsung beat Apple?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I screwed up, actually, this phone isn't imitating Samsung.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fixed the subject for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And yet, if I had first examined the article correctly, it would make
>>>>>>> Apple showing *progress*, which is kind of funny since your defense is
>>>>>>> that *I* was wrong, just some guy online who can wrap my mind around
>>>>>>> why Apple does it the way it does.  I mean, not in the sense of
>>>>>>> agreement, but in the sense of seeing that they are OK with being
>>>>>>> weird.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "It would MAKE Apple showing progress"?
>>>>>
>>>>> "It would mean that Apple was showing progress" is what I should have
>>>>> edited it to say.
>>>>
>>>> In what way would it mean that Apple was showing progress?
>>>>
>>>> Literally, all there is in the article is a rumour that Apple will be
>>>> changing the NAME they use for a product.
>>>
>>> I meant that if I had correctly read the article, the first time, I
>>> thought that this phone was going to add buttons to the UI, like
>>> Samsung has - how I came to that conclusion is a mystery, but I was
>>> high on drugs.  However, as I suggested, if that were somehow true it
>>> would mean Apple had come around, and admitted their design sucks
>>> balls.
>>
>> 1. No, that is NOT what you said at any time. Let me elucidate (and I'll
>> wait a few minutes while you look that up):
>>
>> You're now claiming that when you wrote, "And yet, if I had first
>> examined the article correctly, it would mean that Apple was showing
>> progress".
>>
>> What you (apparently) meant to have said was:
>>
>> "And yet, if the article had said what I thought it did, it would mean
>> that Apple was showing progress".
>>
>> So...
>>
>> 2. If changing the UI is proof that the previous UI "sucks balls", then
>> you should examine the fact that Android has switched its default UI for
>> app switching to APPLE's UI for doing so: with gestures.
> 
> 
> You specify it's a "default", obviously they are giving people the
> choice.  I know what choice I would make.

Way to miss the point!

> 
> 
>>>>>> I'm not going to bother with the rest of your gibberish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dude, try again, but this time in English.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh gibberish, huh, unlike Apple's UI, heh.  That's a great descriptor
>>>>> for it, malformed functions, inferior, and yet the Apple name sells
>>>>> these devices.
>>>> What function(s) in Apple's is/(are) "malformed"?
>>>>
>>>> When you've put yourself in a huge hole...
>>>>
>>>> ...stop digging.
>>>
>>> The lack of buttons.
>> Are you still high?
>>
>> Because words have MEANINGS, and "malformed" doesn't match that.
> 
> 
> It's malformed *code* underlying the visible features on the screen -
> crafting a UI sans real controls, wasting people's time.
It clearly has real controls, doofus.

You may not like them, but it clearly has controls.

So that's another failure for you.