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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 08:47:14 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: <vl5jqi$38ev1$1@dont-email.me> References: <vl2831$1im$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <ltkir8Fa8n7U2@mid.individual.net> <34s*bEu3z@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> <vl37i4$2of6v$1@dont-email.me> <vl3dhr$2pg97$1@dont-email.me> <vl3joe$2qidm$1@dont-email.me> <vl45o9$2t4f9$1@dont-email.me> <vl47qk$2u5ui$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 09:47:21 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3c42f7270705f3f89905ad3533c16263"; logging-data="3423201"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+VhjR4o+YW7VfrD3ivaeHQuepfEHqFwOQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:k+A/Qv27ztpnDrWadYubab6TBhA= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <vl47qk$2u5ui$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2461 On 01/01/2025 20:16, R.Wieser wrote: > Jeff, > >> You may have replaced the original Android OS in whatever Pixel you're >> using with GrapheneOS, but it's still Android. > > Absolutily. Just like Googles tracking and adware-infested version of > android is just android. :-) > >> I've always understood that GrapheneOS is Android that's been "degoogled" > > What about the possibility that some nitwit has come up with that > explanation, and instead GrapheneOS is a clean version of Android plus some > privacy and security stuff added to it ? Well, you might like to bet on that possibility but I most certainly would not! Android is Google's baby and they spent a lot of time, money, and effort bringing it up. I know that GrapheneOS has been reviewed and the general view is that it is pretty good at what it does (interesting discussion here: <https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/i-dont-trust-pixel-graphene-where-are-the-authoritative-claims-of-its-credibility/17503/1>). However, Android is said to have 12 million lines of code. Is it really known to anyone outside Google what all of them do? -- Jeff