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Subject: Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 10:14:26 -0000 (UTC)
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Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
> On 2025-01-03 09:47, Scott wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 00:09:11 -0500, Isaac Montara
>> <IsaacMontara@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anyone know how existing & new Google, Samsung & Apple phones are faring?
>>> https://energy-efficient-products.ec.europa.eu/product-list/smartphones-and-tablets_en
>>> 
>>> 1. Resistance to accidental drops or scratches
>>> & protection from dust & water
>>> 
>>> 2. Sufficiently durable batteries which can withstand
>>> at least 800 charge and discharge cycles
>>> while retaining at least 80% of their initial capacity
>>> 
>>> 3. Rules on disassembly and repair, including obligations
>>> for producers to make critical spare parts available
>>> within 5-10 working days, and for 7 years after
>>> the end of sales of the product model on the EU market
>>> 
>>> 4. Availability of operating system upgrades for longer periods
>>> (at least 5 years from the date of the end of placement on
>>> the market of the last unit of a product model)
>>> 
>>> 5. Non-discriminatory access for professional repairers
>>> to any software or firmware needed for the replacement
>> 
>> Will these regulations apply in the UK?
> 
> As you have had explained to you at least twice before, they will become 
> a de facto standard, because it won't be worth the cost to the 
> manufacturers to produce a substantially different model for every 
> different market; on the contrary they will try and keep as much as 
> possible of every product the same world-wide.
> 

Well yes and no. The rules requiring Apple to allow third party App stores
do not apply to GB and you can’t access them in GB. (I’m being very careful
to exclude NI as I’m not sure how it works out for them). I pass no comment
on the rights and wrongs of such App stores, just pointing out that the EU
and GB markets are not entirely coincident. 

Take the rule for battery life. If your phone battery breaches the 800
cycle 80% rule in the EU you might have rights to get the battery replaced
free of charge, and you might not have those rights in GB.