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Subject: Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 11:33:58 +0000
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On 2025-01-03 10:08, Scott wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 10:04:03 +0000, Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-01-03 09:47, Scott wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 00:09:11 -0500, Isaac Montara
>>> <IsaacMontara@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know how existing & new Google, Samsung & Apple phones are faring?
>>>> https://energy-efficient-products.ec.europa.eu/product-list/smartphones-and-tablets_en
>>>>
>>>> 1. Resistance to accidental drops or scratches
>>>>     & protection from dust & water
>>>>
>>>> 2. Sufficiently durable batteries which can withstand
>>>>     at least 800 charge and discharge cycles
>>>>     while retaining at least 80% of their initial capacity
>>>>
>>>> 3. Rules on disassembly and repair, including obligations
>>>>     for producers to make critical spare parts available
>>>>     within 5-10 working days, and for 7 years after
>>>>     the end of sales of the product model on the EU market
>>>>
>>>> 4. Availability of operating system upgrades for longer periods
>>>>     (at least 5 years from the date of the end of placement on
>>>>     the market of the last unit of a product model)
>>>>
>>>> 5. Non-discriminatory access for professional repairers
>>>>     to any software or firmware needed for the replacement
>>>
>>> Will these regulations apply in the UK?
>>
>> As you have had explained to you at least twice before, they will become
>> a de facto standard, because it won't be worth the cost to the
>> manufacturers to produce a substantially different model for every
>> different market; on the contrary they will try and keep as much as
>> possible of every product the same world-wide.
> 
> Evidently it is not quite as simple as that. In another thread it is
> explained that Apple have withdrawn phones with lightning connectors
> from the EU market and continue to sell them in the UK. 

I haven't seen that other thread, but they may well be offloading old 
stock pending newer models.  Eventually market forces can be expected to 
prevail.

> I take your
> point going forward about the de facto standard, but my question was
> whether the new regs would apply de jure.

Well obviously not as stated in the OP, because since Brexit we're no 
longer bound by that legal system, otherwise Apple would not be selling 
phones with lightning connectors here as claimed above.  HMG would have 
to bring in legislation of its own mirroring that of the EU, and I would 
have thought if they were doing so we would have seen something about it 
by now.

Mind, I've lost access to the BBC News RSS feeds, including the 
Technology news feed, because the supplier of the translation script  - 
that enabled me to create on my PCs a web page summarising them  -  has 
discontinued the service, so, as I've not had time to write my own, I've 
not been keeping so well up to date for about three or four months now.

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