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From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 08:32:36 -0500
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On 1/3/25 7:07 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 03/01/2025 11:58, -hh wrote:
>> On 1/3/25 6:32 AM, D wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 3 Jan 2025, Lars Poulsen wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-01-02, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>> https://policies.python.org/python.org/code-of-conduct/
>>>>>
>>>>> What isn't 'woke' these days? The language is over the top but does 
>>>>> the
>>>>> end result really differ from civilized behavior in the workplace?
>>>>
>>>> The problem seems to be that some a**holes NEED to be smacked with
>>>> regulations before they will live up to basic civility. And then they
>>>> complain about "woke tyranny".
>>>>
>>>
>>> That might be true. It is also true that some people are severely and 
>>> unjustly punished for being conservative christians, pro-Trump, or 
>>> just plain conservative. 
>>
>> These actions you're defending as 'unjust' were things like killing 
>> someone because they happened to be gay/black/different, right?
>>
> 
> No.
> It means losing your career and livelihood because you said that women 
> don't have a penis.

I'm not disputing that such claims have been made, nor that the one 
stating it got berated, but we do need to look beyond the superficial 
media sound bite to see what the more complete context has been.

For example, much of these trans- topics have been distractions from a 
basic principle, such as "but don't they have rights too?":  the whole 
flamewar on this in college sports:  the NCAA chair recently testified 
to Congress and revealed that there's ten (10) trans NCAA athletes in 
question.  With this so-called "problem" being just ten kids, don't you 
think that this topic has been blown way out of proportion?

There's certainly been more than just ten kids who have been denied 
opportunity for some equally trivial & wrong reason too by some coach 
somewhere who doesn't like their curly hair, accent, a sibling, etc. 
Put blame on the individuals being assholes, not principles of equality.

> Or because you said that Mohammed wasn't a very nice person, after all.
> Or losing an eye because of that.

Also no 'woke', because physical assault has been illegal for centuries.

Now while on this topic, why can Christians shove their religious texts 
down everyone's throats?  Can you identify which Constitution Amendment 
made this form of Christianity our one & only official religion?  Or is 
the actual problem here that some fundamental Christians have chosen to 
become flaming assholes intolerant of all others?


> Or losing your career and livelihood because you failed to endorse 
> wokery in every performance and every film play or radio drama that you 
> were involved in.

But Theater has been a haven for 'misfits' of society for decades, so 
why are you trying to disrespect/destroy that subculture they've built? 
Are you going to deride D&D players for the same reasons too?

Or Hunters?  Powerboat owners?  Because there's a million subcultures 
that one can attack when you really are determined to be an asshole.


> Or losing your career and livelihood because you failed to endorse 'man 
> made climate change'.

Sea levels have already risen by 4 inches since 1993, and hard science 
has found the primary energy imbalance reason why:  its anthropometric.


>> There's extreme cases of assholitry that have no place in Society; the 
>> question is how to establish a fair, uniform and transparent standard 
>> that won't be abused by those who's personal biases make them prone to 
>> being an abuser (see religious leaders & pedophilia for YA example).
>>
> Abolish woke.

Abolish assholes ... it is the more direct & obvious solution.

> Make it perfectly legal to think anything and say anything that is not a 
> direct incitement to public violence.

It already is.  What you're trying to do is to separate Freedom of 
Speech from Freedom from Consequences.


> Battle racism by repealing  all laws that diifferentiate  between ethnic 
> groups

The challenge is how to identify, quantify & make amendments for decades 
of systematic advantages granted to straight white protestant men, as 
the current generation has had both direct plus indirect benefits 
through their forefathers.

Change can occur though, by leading by example: demand that all cops who 
have pulled over any "driving while black" motorists be fired, stripped 
of pension & blacklisted from ever working a job in law enforcement ever 
again.


> Let society, not the Law, judge whether a man in a summer frock is 
> really a woman or just a sick saddo.

Let Society mind their own damn business by not demanding to peek under 
that individual's frock to begin with.


-hh