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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Date: 3 Jan 2025 15:18:29 GMT Organization: NOYB Lines: 61 Message-ID: <vl92ie.qp8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> References: <vl1ff6$2c41l$1@dont-email.me> <8bk8njhp31eu4pri07cppsk95sfkcrtr2h@4ax.com> <sycdP.195039$ZAue.171799@fx12.iad> <vl450i$2tjip$2@dont-email.me> <o26bnjt79jdmu8nn810b9cit5rvrvl2pc8@4ax.com> <62kdP.13233$XfF8.7735@fx04.iad> <oljbnjlun52i9ti02mancub64i0uh7sbkl@4ax.com> <z0ldP.24349$DPp5.18068@fx01.iad> <vl6r7g.dio.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <YiCdP.414641$bYV2.368740@fx17.iad> X-Trace: individual.net kI8dZ+zjQ8cjYiHKdMjrewAlyoiN7ojdYSIF/Wte5N27agpAgz X-Orig-Path: not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:PDhvVujThpWZq3ARkhy7Gi0xjrE= sha256:GcpFM4WpkbmWJYOmK4lNLbSYRGcuCeI3DdTPkt6Cfsk= User-Agent: tin/1.6.2-20030910 ("Pabbay") (UNIX) (CYGWIN_NT-10.0-WOW/2.8.0(0.309/5/3) (i686)) Hamster/2.0.2.2 Bytes: 3543 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: > On 2025-01-02 14:00, Frank Slootweg wrote: > > Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: > > [...] > > > >> The bug that finally caused me to stop bothering with them isn't > >> Microsoft's fault, but I do fault them for continuing to demand TPM when > >> the requirement was causing stuttering with anyone who owned an AMD > >> processor. [...] > > > > I didn't follow this 'stuttering' problem before, but as I have an AMD > > processor and - like you - in a laptop [1], can you tell me how/where I > > would experience said stuttering? So far everything seems to be running > > fine. > > > > [...] > > > > [1] HP Pavilion 15-eh2560nd laptop, AMD Ryzen 5 5625U 2.3Ghz 6 Cores, > > Windows 11 24H2. > > An example: > > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYnRL-x6DVI> Thankss! I've never experienced any noticeable video/display stuttering, but then I don't play games and watch few, but some, videos. OTOH, the author says "Regardless of what programs I was running.". I assume he means "Regardless of what *other* programs I was running." I got my laptop in end of July 2022. Most references are older than that. Perhaps my laptop was already fixed by HP/AMD. The video and its notes talk about 'fTPM' ('firmware TPM'). When I run 'tpm.msc' as mentioned in the notes, the 'Trusted Platform Module Management' plugin only mentions 'TPM', not 'fTPM' anywhere, so perhaps I *do* have a discrete TPM module. Anyway, the only specific information reported is: "TPM Manufacturer Information Manufacturer Name: AMD Manufacturer Version: 3.91.2.5 Specification Version: 2.0" > An acknowledgement from AMD: > > <https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-acknowledges-ftpm-stuttering-issues-promises-a-bios-fix-in-may> > > I doubt that you never experienced it. However, you might have had it > fixed if you use a desktop and the manufacturer of your motherboard > issued an update for the problem. Thanks again! I thought I didn't download/install any BIOS firmware update, but on checking my notes, I remembered/saw that there was a *forced* BIOS upgrade as part of the 12SEP2023 monthly Windows Update cycle, so perhaps the problem (which I never encountered/noticed) was fixed at that time. AFAIC, case closed. But feel free to comment. Thanks.