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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: The problem with not owning the software Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2025 02:14:28 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <vla5i4$5soj$1@dont-email.me> References: <Tn39P.50437$%aWb.4583@fx18.iad> <vk5vjq$3v34m$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <nuy9P.28629$aTp4.27488@fx09.iad> <vktlcp$1i26p$4@dont-email.me> <4IycP.183255$DYF8.173507@fx14.iad> <vl3rje$2rvfu$1@dont-email.me> <vl452u$2tjip$3@dont-email.me> <vl5vln$3b63u$2@dont-email.me> <vl728i$3h9eh$5@dont-email.me> <oVEdP.37142$oCrf.35023@fx33.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2025 03:14:29 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d866b72bb3e049e1178381f9ed573230"; logging-data="193299"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/a8LxKmhaU6j1mWFjL3V2ZPhavbsEuVgY=" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:5LVs/zSBXCw2oyGZ2E0Z7XhyW7Y= sha1:a+YPpj3l86kvoFV5q58DgmMME44= Bytes: 2598 Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: > On 2025-01-02 16:59, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:09:27 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: >> >>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 16:47:42 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: >>>> >>>>> You still don't own it, but now it's purely semantics. >>>> >>>> “Semantics” means "meaning”. So “now it’s purely meaning”? >>> >>> Correct. With FLOSS you don't own the software, as it's still just a >>> license, but you can do with it more or less whatever you want. Meaning >>> in practice it is indistinguishable from ownership. >> >> So the distinction from actual ownership ... is that meaningful or not? > > I'm just going to say this again because it bears repeating: > > 1) I don't need to make an account to download software to Linux. > 2) I don't need to make an account to use the software I downloaded. > 3) I can install Linux without needing to log into an account I have or > create one. > > If privacy is a concern, those are interesting advantages. Even if you > don't care about privacy, you might be sick of logging in everywhere. That's not unique to linux. Even macOS does 1/2 and probably 3 with a little effort.