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From: Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
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Subject: Re: Was Poincare crushed by the New
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2025 10:00:18 +0100
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Poincare has surely still a fellowship,
maybe a form of counter culture, similar like
Spencer Brown. Who halucinates a supervenient

logic over the logics from the formal revolution,
mostly appealing to diagrammtic reasoning.

"The mathematician Darboux claimed he was un
intuitif (an intuitive), arguing that this is
demonstrated by the fact that he worked so
often by visual representation. Jacques Hadamard
wrote that Poincaré's research demonstrated
marvelous clarity[76] and Poincaré himself wrote
that he believed that logic was not a way to
invent but a way to structure ideas and that
logic limits ideas."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Poincar%C3%A9#Character

This is a very common psychological defense
mechanism, sometimes having even a religious

motivation, in that it is believed that the
face of God or Angels speak to humans through
mathematics. But once again with generative

AI and halucinating ChatGPT this humanist
monopole is challenged somehow even more.

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Poincare had quite some problems with the
> formal revolution that took place as well
> in the last 100 or more years, starting with
> 
> things like naive set theory and its antinomies,
> ending with computer formalized proofs of the Keppler
> packing nowadays. He wrote a lengthy book:
> 
> Science and method
> by Poincaré, Henri, 1854-1912
> https://archive.org/details/sciencemethod00poinuoft/page/n3/mode/2up
> 
> His struggle starts at page 160, The New Logics.
> Similar Einstein was New Mechanics for him.
> Mostlikely Poincaré nowadays would be a form of
> 
> Sabine Hossenfelder with 100 YouTube videos and
> possibly many followers. Poincaré faced the
> destiny of any old fart that became irrelevant
> 
> over the time and turned into a commentator.