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From: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
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Subject: Re: We have a new standard!
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On 04/01/2025 11:17, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Jan 2025 11:22:09 -0800
> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> gabbled:
>> Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org writes:
>>> Don't be obtuse for the sake of arguing.
>>
>> You used the word "expect".  I think you meant that you *want* it to
>> behave in certain ways.  You know the existing rules, and you strongly
>> dislike them.
> 
> What I would expect in a language is for mathematical operators to have the
> same precendence with numeric types whether overloaded or not. This isn't the
> case with << and >>.
> 

In C++, << and >> have the same precedence with all types - just like 
all the other operators.  The precedences are built into the grammar of 
the language.

Are you suggesting that C++ compilers should somehow have omniscient 
knowledge of user-defined types to know whether some class is a 
"numeric" type or some other kind of type which should have different 
precedences for different operators?  Do you think that would lead to a 
language that is clearer and easier to learn?