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From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
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On 1/4/25 4:24 AM, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
> On 1/3/25 7:27 AM, -hh wrote:
>> On 1/3/25 6:52 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 03/01/2025 11:45, D wrote:
>>>> No I think it is just because someone pulled in 
>>>> comp.os.linux.advocacy. Seems a lot of trolls reside there. I looked 
>>>> into it, found it way to annoying, and stopped. But I got a reminder 
>>>> of why I stopped reading that group.
>>>
>>> Yup. Ain't that the truth.
>>
>> Yup, its a product of crossposting.  Things change and USENET just 
>> doesn't have the audience it did 30 years ago to have groups have 
>> sufficient critical mass to sustain (on- or off-topic) dialogs/
> 
>    USENET isn't what it was ... has kinda fallen off
>    the proverbial radar. IMHO this is kinda GOOD.

As much as the 'Eternal September' days of disruption were a nuisance, 
the downside today is a manifestation of aging and decline:  there's 
probably zero current participants in these newsgroups who are under age 
40 ... and the average age is probably closer to 65.

>    Shit ... when I first got into Usenet the AI guru
>    Minsky used to post to the AI groups - things were
>    respectable then.

I can recall chatting with John Godwin about the Internet Law named 
after him (“As an online discussion continues, the probability of a 
comparison to Hitler or to Nazis approaches one").


>>> Linux is good all by itself. Doesn't need advocacy.
>>
>> Its a tool like anything else, so use the right tool for the job.
>
>    Well ... 'tool', yes ... but ALSO a 'philosophy',
>    a way of looking at things. Lin is NOT Win.

Sure.  This is just a simplifying conversational expediency, not a PhD 
thesis.


>> Advocates in COLA have historically fight against the wisdom of 
>> understanding that everything has its own strengths & weaknesses, 
>> swimming against uses where other solutions are better.
> 
>    Well, Win is MOSTLY 'weaknesses' ....
> 
>> For example, take a new digital camera: wouldn't it be nice to not 
>> have to wait a year to read its new RAW file format?  Most folk just 
>> want pics, so they choose a platform where its supported on launch, 
>> not to have to sit down to DIY write & test a 3rd party driver first.
> 
>    Linux, and esp BSD Unix, are always a bit behind
>    the driver curve. However I've never found that to
>    be a major inconvenience. Much stuff just doesn't
>    change that quickly anymore.

Which circles back to "right tool for the job" for when one is buying 
new stuff for whatever purposes; the example I used here was digital 
camera gear (& a 2025 New Years resolution is to start to meddle with 
higher video formats on my still-new-to-me 2022 Canon R6 Mk2).


>> Meantime, my New Year's Resolution is to tweak my Linux NAS; seems 
>> that it needs a better RAM cache to not bottleneck on network, and 
>> those parts are due to arrive this weekend. I'll have to look around 
>> to see if I have some spare NVMEs to change up its disk cache while 
>> I'm at it too.   If that doesn't resolve things, then its probably 
>> time to look to some network gear to move some nodes from 1GbE to 10GbE.
> 
>    Done lots of NAS over the years. Used packages
>    and kinda wrote my own too.
> 
>    Yes, 'tweaks' can help - a LITTLE.
> 
>    However, if you really try to benchmark it, the
>    tweaks don't REALLY add much but complication
>    and ops for failure.
> 
>    So, from my long experience, stick close to
>    'vanilla' and you'll do OK and not SUFFER.

Precisely, because its intended to be a tool, not a toy.  I did get the 
RAM installed yesterday & its rebooted and recognized fine; will want to 
run a couple of throughput performance tests.

Didn't have time to look for spare NVMes to swap out ... but that was 
more a case that the current ones are gratuitous overkill (2 x 2TB) so 
it would be nice to repurpose them - I've been looking at using them to 
make a "zero cost" duplicate instance of my entire photo library to give 
a test run on "DigiKam", a FOSS photo management tool which came 
recommended.


>    Oft unrealized gem these days - OpenMediaVault.
>    It's become a very complete NAS system yet is
>    still kinda 'light' code-wise. DO note that
>    you can't just write randomly to its files
>    because the system won't index it - will not
>    think your direct writes exist. Gotta set up
>    like SMB shares in scripts or whatever that
>    ref it's 'approved' shares. THEN it'll work.

I still have a couple of old towers sitting around if I want to get 
frustrated with a random homebrew project!  <g>  Which in semi-serious 
form would be a decent use of the pile of small (<8TB) HDDs I've 
accumulated, but it would probably add +$10/month on my electric bill.


-hh