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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jos Boersema <Josjoha@market.socialism.nl> Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish Subject: Re: Israel is lost. Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2025 12:03:54 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 90 Message-ID: <vlb83a$ero2$2@dont-email.me> References: <vl0oa5$27o2m$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2025 13:03:55 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6a6ec01af67aa69916452f7d828b6755"; logging-data="487170"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/f4c+xUguDykX4BxUOG9D1" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:B2Jmn2NR+KyiO/w5FxD/Z6OX/pg= Bytes: 5880 The person continued with the question that the problem might be that the 3rd Temple hasn't been rebuild. Reply ... The problem is that they do not follow their Torah, for example and perhaps most importantly they have not given everyone their right to free land. Everyone gets their free land in the ancient law of Israel (Torah). The Temple is basically the Supreme court (in modern words), who is supposed to hold people accountable (ultimately) who break laws like this. The people of Israel today have destroyed these laws, and they think that this is good. However, it is not good, and you probably also do not understand this, but it is the case that you cannot have a stable and peaceful Nation if you allow markets in land or some other trick or foul to deny people their right to free land. Therefore what you will see, is if this current Israel is going to build the Third Temple, that the Judges or other systems to keep the laws in place are going to sit there, that they will continue with their ignorance and not keep Israel in good order, as it is supposed to be kept in good order. They are corrupt, and therefore their 3rd Temple will also be corrupt. Rabbinical Judaism is corrupt, but they do not want to admit it and correct it, because they are a hard necked and rebellious people, who put a lot of pride in phony ideas which they made up later, which serve the rich and greedy who have overthrown the Torah for their own greedy selfishness. The foul in this case is in their books here: Rambam Shemita 10:8. It is completely obvious, and therefore they are lying about these things. It isn't about mistakes anymore, it is overt lying, they are in open rebellion against the Torah, it is an open war against heaven of sorts. They pretend otherwise, which is part of their war against the truth. You can find yourself easily where the Jubilee is in the Torah. Tanach: Bemidbar 34:16, 36, Wajjikra 25:23, Tehiliem 37, 78, 55, Jehoshua 17:5, Ezekiel 48:29, Micha 2:5. This is just one part of the laws which they have ruined for themselves. It also doesn't matter to a degree if they understand their own lying or not. It matters that they behave wrong. The consequences of this wrong are going to be rising corruption, crime in high and low places, poverty and hopelessness, demoralization, forms of slavery and exploitation, and eventually also defeats in wars and being absorbed into enemy Empires, to eventually leading to their complete dissipation and dissapearance. In other words, they are still creating the exile. Israel is not restored. The Zionist Rebel State is nothing more than some of the worst Jewish rebels against the Torah, rebels _against_ Israel (who nevertheless are Jewish themselves), who are doing their best basically to ruin their own people and become part of the gentile Empires and all the madness that this implies, because the gentiles understand even less and do even less of what needs to be done. All this mess is going to end in horrible wars and Tyrannies, and potentially even the end of humanity or a reset to the Stone Age of some sort. Putting a 3rd Temple on this mess, will only make it even worse. The idolatrous people of Israel will even stronger believe in these corrupt Rabbis and whomever is going to control that Temple, and this will ruin the Torah to an even greater extend. That is why their Temple was presumably also destroyed, to save them from this Temple corruption. * End reply. Israel is lost, they do not believe their own Torah, they do not think about their own Torah to understand it seriously, even though there are things in it (if not everything) which can be rationally (Scientifically) understood as to why it is this way, why it has to be that way, why it is good and true, the best plan for Israel. 21+ centuries of having overthrown the Torah on key points, and no signs yet of stopping with the lies. It is quite amazing they still exist, concidering the Torah is their only unifying and most defining element. How is it possible they have gone on with the lies for so long, and pretended not to notice it, and in such large numbers ? How can this happen ? Do they not care whatsoever about anything, not even their own Torah ? I guess it all became a game for them. It is a money maker within Israel to be seen as caring about the Torah. It is good for standing and money. Actually caring ... well ... that would require things like standing up to the liars and the bribes and so on, that would require effort, even loss of standing because of all the big liars whom you would have to expose and rage against. Still, for 21 centuries or so, to keep the lies going. Quite an achievement, in the negative. Unusual for humans ? Not at all, see the western idolators for example. 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