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On 1/4/2025 10:38 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
> On 2025-01-04 10:29, DFS wrote:
>> On 1/4/2025 10:01 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>
>>
>>> At first glance, there is a lot about Windows that is way more user- 
>>> friendly than Linux. However, if you take something like Linux Mint 
>>> and compare it to Windows 11, you'd wonder _how_ Windows 11 is 
>>> friendlier. In Windows 11, some applications can't be removed and you 
>>> don't get an idea why. Some Windows components aren't even listed in 
>>> the applications so you have to wonder how to install or remove them. 
>>> For drivers, they're installed through Windows Update but if they 
>>> don't work right, you just have to know about the Device Manager 
>>> which is impossible to find on your own because they're phasing out 
>>> the Control Panel. Some programs are available through the Window 
>>> Store, others through the web which means that some are repairable 
>>> and easily uninstallable whereas the others aren't... and so on. For 
>>> new users, Linux Mint is actually _much_ simpler than Windows is.
>>
>>
>> Right-click on the Win11 Start button.
> 
> You missed the point: there is inconsistency. 


Which Linux distro offers perfect consistency?

I agree there is significant overlap/duplication/confusion between 
Win10/11 Settings and Control Panel.  Either it was too much work to 
migrate all the Control Panel functionality at once to Settings, or they 
left Control Panel intact for a while because of the massive installed 
base that expects it.



> Why would you update through Windows Update but manage through Device Manager?

That's how it's done in ALL operating systems, right?



> Why would 
> Device Manager be listed by right-clicking the Start button (by the way, 
> how would anyone know it's there?

How does anyone know to right-click on a desktop or taskbar or icon or 
file?  You just do it as part of OS usage and discovery - since Windows 95.


> ) but not in the Settings? 

It's right there:  Settings | Bluetooth and Devices

(which is an odd combo)



> People are likely to be more lost in Windows than in Linux Mint.

Maybe.  Maybe not.

I haven't picked apart a GuhNoo distro in years, but it's always 
entertaining to find glaring distro bugs, even in 2025.

Apparently GuhNoo devs get so distracted by their long blue hair and 
uncomfortable ball-tucking that they can't focus on the unpleasant task 
of testing.