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Subject: Re: President of Honduras Threaten Trump Over Deporting Illegals
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2025 18:35:20 -0500
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On 2025-01-04 5:45 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 1/4/2025 4:45 PM, Rhino wrote:
>> On 2025-01-04 11:59 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 1/4/2025 10:42 AM, Rhino wrote:
>>>> On 2025-01-03 10:11 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>> On 1/3/2025 7:54 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-01-03 7:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> Honduran President Xiomara Castro just issued a threat to 
>>>>>>> President Trump,
>>>>>>> saying she'll shutdown U.S. military bases if he deports Honduran
>>>>>>> nationals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Faced with a hostile attitude of mass expulsion of our brothers, 
>>>>>>> we would
>>>>>>> have to consider a change in our policies of cooperation with the 
>>>>>>> United
>>>>>>> States, especially in the military arena, where, without paying a 
>>>>>>> cent for
>>>>>>> decades, they maintain military bases in our territory, which in 
>>>>>>> this case
>>>>>>> would lose all reason to exist in Honduras.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "We hope that the new U.S. administration of democratically elected
>>>>>>> President Donald Trump will be open to dialogue, constructive and 
>>>>>>> friendly,
>>>>>>> and will not take unnecessary reprisals against our migrants, who 
>>>>>>> normally
>>>>>>> make a great contribution to the U.S. economy."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------------------
>>>>>>> The balls on her.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's a more honest version of her statement: "Honduras is such 
>>>>>>> a shitpile
>>>>>>> (because of the political corruption of which I am a huge part) 
>>>>>>> that our
>>>>>>> population is fleeing like rats off a sinking ship and illegally 
>>>>>>> invading
>>>>>>> the U.S., but America better not do anything to stop it or we'll 
>>>>>>> be big
>>>>>>> mad."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And if illegal Honduran aliens make such great contributions to 
>>>>>>> the United
>>>>>>> States economy, shouldn't she be pleased that they'll be coming 
>>>>>>> back home
>>>>>>> to contribute there?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's my counteroffer:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In FY 2023, the Department of State and USAID provided $785.05 
>>>>>>> million in
>>>>>>> bilateral, regional, centrally managed, and humanitarian 
>>>>>>> assistance to
>>>>>>> Honduras. Additionally, the Soto Cano Air Base to which she refers
>>>>>>> contributes another $200 million annually to the Honduran economy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So if Presidente Castro wants to fuck around, we'll just find 
>>>>>>> other uses
>>>>>>> for all that tax money and she'll find out to the tune of a 
>>>>>>> billion- dollar
>>>>>>> loss in her country's revenue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Otherwise, she can shut her trap and get on board with Operation
>>>>>>> Repatriation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I expect her loss will be considerably more than a billion 
>>>>>> dollars. I'll bet remittances from Hondurans living in America is 
>>>>>> worth a very pretty penny and is a major plus to the families that 
>>>>>> get them and to the government itself, assuming they tax those 
>>>>>> remittances. Deporting Hondurans back to Honduras is going to put 
>>>>>> a very major dent in that remittance money AND any taxes collected 
>>>>>> on those remittances.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would such remittances be declared [and thus] made subject to 
>>>>> taxation?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Because governments - ALL governments! - love money and anything 
>>>> that can be taxed is an opportunity to make money so that the 
>>>> politicians can pay for the things that they deem important. That 
>>>> includes programs that help "the people" and those that help the 
>>>> politicians, like magnificent palaces for themselves.
>>>
>>> [Inserted left-out words above "and thus"]
>>>
>>> What I don't understand is why recipients would declare those funds.
>>>
>>
>> Somehow or another, that money makes it back to the home country of 
>> the people that make the remittances, presumably through bank ha
>> transfers of some kind. (I've seen ads for apps that can be used for 
>> remittances but I assume they still use banking systems like SWIFT in 
>> one way or another.) The government presumably has reporting 
>> requirements for banks so that the government system is notified about 
>> all money coming into the country and then sees the remittances as 
>> income that is eligible for taxation. If the recipient of the 
>> remittance doesn't pay the appropriate tax, the government notices 
>> because it hasn't collected as much tax as it expected and sends their 
>> equivalent of the IRS after the person who hasn't paid the tax.
>>
>> Do you not know ANYTHING about how government works?? 
> 
> Iirc, bank transfers of more than $10k are flagged.  And the remittances 
> we're discussing seem likely to be well below that threshold.
> 
> 

That's the threshold in the US; Honduras may well have a lower threshold.

-- 
Rhino