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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: The problem with not owning the software Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2025 02:52:06 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 44 Message-ID: <vlcs4m$nnc8$3@dont-email.me> References: <Tn39P.50437$%aWb.4583@fx18.iad> <vk5vjq$3v34m$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <nuy9P.28629$aTp4.27488@fx09.iad> <vkbuqd$18m92$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> <9OCcnRW7grqkbPT6nZ2dnZfqnPUAAAAA@earthlink.com> <vkfva1$28j6k$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <vkhqif$2hvap$1@dont-email.me> <vkmd9n$3l76a$4@toylet.eternal-september.org> <vko7up$6qks$2@dont-email.me> <ltb26aFov8dU1@mid.individual.net> <fUYbP.143220$bYV2.129957@fx17.iad> <vl5vln$3b63u$3@dont-email.me> <vl72j1$3h9eh$7@dont-email.me> <vla5qr$5tqv$1@dont-email.me> <vlaelm$au6q$1@dont-email.me> <vlcm6h$mvt4$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2025 03:52:07 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c85702e5c6cceae706a35141fa55e6e0"; logging-data="777608"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/pF66CWkHjCqSVhON7e4wq" User-Agent: Pan/0.161 (Chasiv Yar; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:SRj5PMKelPlTDTePSscLwmnk9Qc= Bytes: 3246 On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 01:10:42 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: > Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > >> On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 02:19:07 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: >> >>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:09:28 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: >>>> >>>>>> ... suggests that people don't do much other than open up Word and >>>>>> Excel. >>>>> >>>>> In the professional world that's pretty accurate. >>>> >>>> Doesn’t sound like that adjective “professional” extends to the actual >>>> quality of results, then. >>> >>> Based on what, exactly? >> >> Based on the known issues with over-reliance on Microsoft products. > > Such as? Excluding the gene name issue, which is pretty niche. It’s affecting a whole lot of research work <https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-016-1044-7>. Then there was the massive screwup over underreporting of COVID-19 figures in the UK, which went undetected for months <https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/10/excel-glitch-may-have-caused-uk-to-underreport-covid-19-cases-by-15841/>. The Austrian Social Democratic Party’s botched election of a new leader <https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/06/austria_election_excel_blunder/>. How many Excel screwups can you commit in just one job? <https://www.theregister.com/2023/10/12/excel_anesthetist_recruitment_blunder/>. Is it a good idea for a Formula 1 team to use Excel to manage its parts inventory? <https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/03/formula-1-chief-appalled-to-find-team-using-excel-to-manage-20000-car-parts/>. There are entire websites devoted to compiling errors caused by using Microsoft Excel.