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From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
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Subject: Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2025 22:34:42 -0500
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On 1/4/25 10:08 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
> On 2025-01-04 21:34, Sn!pe wrote:
>> Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-01-04 19:39, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 21:50:21 +0000, Sn!pe wrote:
>> [big snip]
>>
>>>>> [OT] That's the great thing about Apple:  from the users' viewpoint it
>>>>> all "just works".
>>>>>
>>>> Until it doesn't. Why do you think Mac users feel the need for 
>>>> something
>>>> like Homebrew? That adds Linux-style package-manager functionality 
>>>> that is
>>>> missing from macOS. Because without it, trying to install open-source
>>>> software turns into a complete nightmare.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I wanted to install something to calculate the wear on my MacBook M1's
>>> storage and experienced this first-hand. It's much easier with Linux.
>>>
>>
>> Fair comment.  You're in a very small minority for wanting to do this.
> 
> Sure, because Mac users typically don't care how the computer works; 
> they just want to use the software to accomplish something. Checking 
> wear, upgrading and changing components is all beneath them. Those who 
> would wish to do such things are peons.


Reminds me of a friend who sends me an email 2x/year that's a copy of 
the report of the latest chemical analysis from his car's most recent 
oil change:  dude, its fine that you want your car to last, but its not 
going to be preserved in a museum!


> Seriously though, I like the Apple-silicon Macs but I'm realizing that 
> I'm not the kind of person who would be content knowing that whatever I 
> purchased can't be changed in the slightest after purchase. I love how 
> easily Apple hardware communicates with other Apple hardware and find 
> MacOS to be a nice system, but I'm realizing that the best compromise 
> for me is Linux delivered by a steady community like that of Fedora.

I think what changed for me was recognizing that I no longer need to go 
through extraordinary efforts to make an PC last a decade anymore, 
because their costs have declined so dramatically over the past 40 years.


-hh