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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2025 13:33:41 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 69 Message-ID: <vle1nl$1212k$1@dont-email.me> References: <vl3rp7$2s0fe$1@dont-email.me> <73uanjp6ipl1demerr2m8a8f4nj21nrrik@4ax.com> <7a14d7a7-87a2-b2bf-50e8-133ea51d1c83@example.net> <oekbnjh6gfdurjt4m949ugcmkt3qh9fd24@4ax.com> <363b121c-5b8f-3c6c-ac44-88559bb20b28@example.net> <8u2dnW0nrcGSDer6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com> <4d43c0ae-dfa7-0b16-c054-f9f15c31bb00@example.net> <vl8j2n$3sqfa$2@dont-email.me> <vl8l42$3splv$1@dont-email.me> <uuggnjh45vlqgs3q5uri71a9a9n37ljc9q@4ax.com> <vl9jmf$2onl$1@dont-email.me> <4aqgnj5o7be1q0s21ufrjv5re531ldsfuk@4ax.com> <Qe0eP.15454$YXj.13481@fx34.iad> <vlansh$c5ch$1@dont-email.me> <aaceP.257000$ZAue.40297@fx12.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2025 14:33:42 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9a8df08ba0ed6ca0e052f862be1b3ee7"; logging-data="1115220"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19CbKhiE9WwwKnghcVRkULd" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dYXaLytNihZ49WbSr3UidZTKpwE= Bytes: 4961 On 2025-01-04, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: > On 2025-01-04 02:27, RonB wrote: >> On 2025-01-04, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: >>> On 2025-01-03 18:11, chrisv wrote: >>>> -hh wrote: >>>> >>>>> chrisv wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> -highhorse wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Its a tool like anything else, so use the right tool for the job. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Advocates in COLA have historically fight against the wisdom of >>>>>>> understanding that everything has its own strengths & weaknesses, >>>>>>> swimming against uses where other solutions are better. >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course, -highhorse is lying. He's a trolling asshole who gets-off >>>>>> on attacking decent, reasonable people. His solutions are better, by >>>>>> gum, and he'll ridicule anyone who thinks otherwise. >>>>>> >>>>>> According to the -highhorse troll, "Linux is what sloppy cheapskates >>>>>> who cut corners prefer to use, rather than a quality product." >>>>> >>>>> (snipped, unread) >>>> >>>> Let me guess: Quotes from cola advocates proving that, yes, they do >>>> consider value when making a choice! How terrible! >>>> >>>> That must mean that they would rather use Windows or Mac! Not. >>>> >>>> -highhorse doesn't understand the importance of software freedom, so >>>> he takes it out on his moral and intellectual superiors. He thinks >>>> it's about being a "cheapskate" or a "freeloader". -highhorse claims >>>> that "the open source nature of Linux tends to attractthe type of >>>> persona who somehow believes that all avenues are one-way streets set >>>> up to benefit him (and only him) as the true & deserving holy center >>>> of the universe." >>>> >>>> -highhorse is a stupid person and an asshole. >>> >>> The thing about Linux is that it is indeed for the freeloader... but >>> it's also for the academic, the gamer, the student, the poor family that >>> can barely afford to eat and the average user who is content to buy >>> quality software but also enjoys using the free stuff. I would wager >>> that open-source enthusiasts actually pay more for software than Windows >>> or Mac users do, but that they do it by donating to it. >> >> Many Windows users openly brag about pirating their software. And Microsoft >> basically gives away their office suite and OS to keep you in their >> ecosystem. I don't think I've bought a used computer in 15 years that didn't >> already have a Windows license built in — and they work all the way up to >> Windows 11. (And still, I don't use the crap.) > > A guy I used to hang out with in the 2000s openly told me that he > pirated every game he played even though he could afford to buy them. In > his case, it seemed to be a force of habit though. Back when I was a > teenager, I don't think anyone bought a game at all. I was probably the > only one who ever did. That's been my experience as well. Since I didn't play games (even when I used Windows) and had no interest in most Windows software (what I did buy was on clearance or used) I didn't have much incentive to pirate software. So changing to Linux didn't change my software buying habits at all. As a matter of fact, I think I've bought more Linux software than I ever bought of Windows software (at least paid more). -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien