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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!panix!.POSTED.panix6.panix.com!nan.users.panix.com!robomod!not-for-mail From: Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team> Newsgroups: news.groups.proposals Subject: Re: 1st RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2025 10:39:03 EST Organization: To protect and to server Approved: NGP Approval Key <ngp-approval-key@ngp.big-8.org> Message-ID: <vle5de$ptjg$1@paganini.bofh.team> References: <vla2t6$5g57$1@dont-email.me> <677999c5@news.ausics.net> <677a2282$1@news.ausics.net> <20250105082258.0c55387a@ryz.dorfdsl.de> <677a83c6$1@news.ausics.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: reader2.panix.com; posting-host="panix6.panix.com:166.84.1.6"; logging-data="6225"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@panix.com" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird X-NGP-Policy: http://www.big-8.org/~ngp X-NGP-Info-1: Send submissions to ngp@nan.users.panix.com X-NGP-Info-2: Send technical/policy queries to ngp-admin@nan.users.panix.com X-Comment: Moderators do not necessarily agree or disagree with this article. X-Robomod: STUMP <https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/stump> X-Spam-Relay-Country: DE XX ** ** Authentication-Results: mail2.panix.com; dmarc=fail (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=bofh.team Authentication-Results: mail2.panix.com; spf=tempfail smtp.mailfrom=paganini.bofh.team X-Original-Injection-Info: ; logging-data=""; posting-host="UVa2lCJi2YFEtTlJ34XukQ.user."; mail-complaints-to=""; posting-account="9rWc7WbYRbeR1+MPv1RaSw"; Content-Language: en-US X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3 X-Auth: PGPMoose V2.0 PGP news.groups.proposals iEYEARECAAYFAmd6p5cACgkQrPkQbuk9hdtXUACfZJWONViDYIHdHCoL6x8RgxJ2 DyMAoMh2GEU046UtrCz2PFWVmMlxMSWd =NXd4 Bytes: 2611 Lines: 17 On 05/01/2025 15:04, noel wrote: > If nobody is moderating the groups, why not unmoderate them instead of > removing them, if they get use, fair enough, if not, there is no harm, no > extra resources used other than a handful of bytes for a one line entry > in active file which already has thousands of unmoderated groups that > haven't been posted to in 10 years anway. > I think because many servers would not respect the change of group, either because GPG keys are not updated or for other reasons (I've heard that this is the main reason since the 90s, as there has never been a unified coordination between newsmasters, and each newsmaster is free to do what he wants) -- Ivo Gandolfo