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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary, effectively) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2025 18:26:50 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 28 Message-ID: <vlefcq$14esf$7@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <3d2fe306aa299bc78e94c14dadd21645d8db9829@i2pn2.org> <vkr8sq$t59a$2@dont-email.me> <d4669f26483b01c8a43dfd3ac4b61ab4a42bf551@i2pn2.org> <vksikk$17fjt$1@dont-email.me> <aa2941e93e806f1dda55d563dd062db67eb879f1@i2pn2.org> <vktmi3$1ia1u$1@dont-email.me> <c46775b30460bc564b3fe7bd1b838713829024f8@i2pn2.org> <vkv3t1$1qb93$1@dont-email.me> <2163aa0c0efba66c813e8ebda5ef5ece6d19ea34@i2pn2.org> <vl1bp4$2bcos$2@dont-email.me> <4d797c9134ea480aa4976cf866cacaede8d309bd@i2pn2.org> <vl5uid$3au1p$1@dont-email.me> <vl650i$3c2ia$1@dont-email.me> <vl6il4$3ecap$5@dont-email.me> <1e8ebc58a12fd659e38d0b9f0ff6fc0194f933be@i2pn2.org> <vl88v4$3qtjc$5@dont-email.me> <ecf6965f78c9152b3fff0d3b18d7df0247100acf@i2pn2.org> <vl9605$3vk27$5@dont-email.me> <9a25e92033e0a4d24e9c27df0de95d8b033d0862@i2pn2.org> <vlasro$cr0k$1@dont-email.me> <a676a0802d5bdf15dd22a1f8cd5072893b6e1e33@i2pn2.org> <vldn14$vlah$2@dont-email.me> <171d790a8a99fa28e5b849e2726d1c9c0f93d932@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2025 18:26:51 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="45315b1acf114f5d7114105fe0d876d0"; logging-data="1194895"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/qiwk9CYIIJ0Q8T84GA9h8xQ/nKWuhlDo=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:BlEWI1e6o0lVQ/22geDxfhy84is= In-Reply-To: <171d790a8a99fa28e5b849e2726d1c9c0f93d932@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3018 On 05.01.2025 13:47, Richard Damon wrote: > On 1/5/25 5:31 AM, WM wrote: >> On 04.01.2025 11:59, joes wrote: >>> Am Sat, 04 Jan 2025 09:52:08 +0100 schrieb WM: >>>> On 04.01.2025 05:06, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 1/3/25 12:15 PM, WM wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Every union of FISONs which stay below a certain threshold stays >>>>>> below >>>>>> that threshold. >>>>> Every union of a finite number of FISONs is just an admssion that you >>>>> can't do the actual union of *ALL* FISONs. >>>> For all FISONs:|ℕ \ {1, 2, 3, ..., n}| = ℵo. >>> But not for the union. >> >> What should make the union larger than all FISONs? >> >> Every union of FISONs which stay below a certain threshold stays >> belown that threshold. > > Because you never actually USED *ALL* FISONs, All FISONs are smaller than 1 % of |ℕ|. Find a FISON {1, 2, 3, ..., n} such that {1, 2, 3, ..., 100n} is a superset of ℕ. Regards, WM