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From: Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net>
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Subject: Re: The Games Come In, The Games Go Out
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2025 20:08:36 -0800
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On 1/5/2025 4:31 PM, Xocyll wrote:
> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
> entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs
> say:
> 
>> On Sun, 05 Jan 2025 14:38:07 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
>>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs
>>> say:
>>
>>> Of course they removed doom2, it's now bundled into Doom + Doom2 - you
>>> gave out a code last month for it I think.
>>
>> Technically, the Doom I + Doom II is a completely different game,
>> featuring an entirely different engine and significantly updated
>> visuals. It's still (largely) compatible with existing WADs but if you
>> want the original game (DOSBox and all) you can't get it on Steam
>> anymore.
>>
>> The original version isn't available on GOG either, now that I check.
>> So it looks like, if you want to play Doom II now and don't own it
>> already, you're options now are: a) pirate, b) use a source port, or
>> c) use the Kex-engine version sold with the Doom + Doom II edition
>> being sold. But you can't acquire the classic Carmack-programmed
>> version of the game legally anymore.
> 
> Who would want to play the 30 year old dos version anyway when they can
> have an update graphics on that works on modern systems?
> 
> I'm guessing they removed it cause they were making no sales of it.
> 
>>> Was rather displeased with GoG, downloaded Blade of Darkness (or so I
>>> thought by pressing the download game button,) only to find I'd
>>> downloaded a stub installed that installed GoG Galaxy (once I shut off
>>> the firewall, cause it generates a random temp dir every time it
>>> unpacked so you couldn't simply unblock.)
>>
>>> Once that was in I could finally install the game, and fucking GoG gives
>>> you a desktop icon that doesn't start the game, it wants you to log into
>>> GoG to play it.   FUCK THAT, it's a single player game!
>>
>>> Set up a direct link to the exe manually.  FUCK YOU GOG!
>>
>> Whether you find value in it or not, many people like using the GOG
>> Galaxy client (I happen to agree with you and prefer an offline
>> version, but IIRC, GOG reported than half GOG users prefer the
>> client,** so we're in the minority here). Nonetheless GOG offers both
>> options, which is more than can be said for almost any of its
>> competitors. That you picked the wrong one is your mistake, not
>> theirs.
> 
> There were no versions, there was a "Download Game" button and that's
> it.
> 
>> GOG has forever offered manual offline installers, including for Blade
>> of Darkness (both versions). You downloaded the clearly labeled
>> "install game with GOG galaxy" version and not the one that is
>> "offline game installer" that's directly beneath it.
> 
> No I did not, I claimed the game, and there was only a "Download Game"
> button with absolutely NO MENTION WHATSOEVER of GoG Motherfucking
> Galaxy, and no links at all, just one button.
> 
> Why in the hell would I want to have an install of a single player game
> that forces you to also run a completely unnecessary app as well.
> 
> Steam used for copy protection is one thing - the game won't run without
> it, but that is not the case here, it's GoG forcing their app to be run
> even though there is no need at all for it.
> <snip>
> 
Once you have downloaded it thru Galaxy, if you check the games page in 
Galaxy you will see the links to download non-Galaxy install files under 
"Extras" in the top menu.

-- 
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky 
dirty old man.