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From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
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Subject: Re: OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 16:09:16 +1100
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On 6/01/2025 5:37 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Jan 2025 09:53:24 -0800, john larkin wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 11:18:16 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/5/2025 11:01 AM, john larkin wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 17:45:19 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/4/2025 5:04 PM, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 14:33:10 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/4/2025 12:20 PM, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 11:30:07 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:

<snip>

>>>> You invent people as targets for your need for contempt. You would
>>>> have been an ardent Nazi in the 1930's Germany. Tribal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> also: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law>
>>
>> Makes sense. Nazi-ism was a tribal/racial-purity movement that killed
>> maybe 100 million people and is damaging the world still.
>>
>> Nazi Germany tolerated no dissent, like China, Russia, Cuba, North
>> Korea, Iran today.
>>
>> None do notable electronic design. The Enlightment was good for
>> electronic design, kick started free thinking.
> 
> To be fair, the Nazis did come up with some truly outstanding science in
> the field of warfare, despite the absence of totally free thinking in most
> other areas.

They did shoot themselves in the foot with their disdain for "Jewish 
science". Lise Meitner essentially discovered nuclear fission, but only 
she'd had to get out of Germany to evade the Nazi's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lise_Meitner

> Likewise, Russia has achieved wonders with its hypersonic
> missile program. So creativity can still flourish, even under the most
> totalitarian regimes, it seems. (Just a shame it's all for the wrong
> purposes!).

It doesn't exactly flourish. It can survive, but totalitarians make a 
lot of bad choices - Lysenko comes to mind. Elon Musk is likely to 
provide more examples.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney