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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: The problem with not owning the software Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 08:23:47 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 22 Message-ID: <vlg3uj$1hec0$1@dont-email.me> References: <vkmd9n$3l76a$4@toylet.eternal-september.org> <vko7up$6qks$2@dont-email.me> <ltb26aFov8dU1@mid.individual.net> <fUYbP.143220$bYV2.129957@fx17.iad> <ltbjk1FrgqvU3@mid.individual.net> <zKecnbsivueyNO36nZ2dnZfqn_HTpa6r@earthlink.com> <vks1gq.ufk.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <ltdrjlF7nkqU6@mid.individual.net> <vkso91$12a03$10@dont-email.me> <vktlct$1i26p$9@dont-email.me> <vkvfi0$1sirn$4@dont-email.me> <vl3reg$2runj$1@dont-email.me> <vl4578$2tjip$4@dont-email.me> <vl57cv$36qpj$1@dont-email.me> <vl5vlk$3b63u$1@dont-email.me> <vl72g8$3h9eh$6@dont-email.me> <vla6jr$61h7$1@dont-email.me> <vlaen8$au6q$2@dont-email.me> <O2ceP.256279$ZAue.230404@fx12.iad> <vlcbpm.vp8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <1r5nn2k.7m1rupwur1c6N%snipeco.2@gmail.com> <vlckcq$mcpa$9@dont-email.me> <vlclhu$ms2g$1@dont-email.me> <vlcsrd$nnc8$7@dont-email.me> <vleanj$13pqe$1@dont-email.me> <vlf7n7$197h8$6@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 09:23:47 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dd68e398adb81eafeb0e0c2acd12f764"; logging-data="1620352"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+E55Bz1SIQJegufZGBz/6Vu5tJ8BPYvJw=" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:8r6hlbse6hEZwLlfnpjwkm3gehY= sha1:6Mmi3JRUsddzgFD2TRc1U67J0a8= Bytes: 2837 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 16:07:15 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: > >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >> >>> That adds Linux-style package-manager functionality that is missing >>> from macOS. Because without it, trying to install open-source >>> software turns into a complete nightmare. >> >> Have been using OSS on Mac for 15+ years, including building packages >> from source. Far, far easier than on Windows. > > That kind of thing doesn’t scale without a package manager, though. How > many hundred open-source packages were you able to build and install at > once? My point is that most OSS software that users need are available as ready-to-use downloads. There's no ubiquitous need for linux-like package manager on macOS. Useful? Probably. Necessary? Nope. Asking users to do a "brew install firefox" is a non-starter.