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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary, effectively) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 18:57:49 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: <vlh5it$1nnkl$2@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <aa2941e93e806f1dda55d563dd062db67eb879f1@i2pn2.org> <vktmi3$1ia1u$1@dont-email.me> <c46775b30460bc564b3fe7bd1b838713829024f8@i2pn2.org> <vkv3t1$1qb93$1@dont-email.me> <2163aa0c0efba66c813e8ebda5ef5ece6d19ea34@i2pn2.org> <vl1bp4$2bcos$2@dont-email.me> <4d797c9134ea480aa4976cf866cacaede8d309bd@i2pn2.org> <vl5uid$3au1p$1@dont-email.me> <vl650i$3c2ia$1@dont-email.me> <vl6il4$3ecap$5@dont-email.me> <1e8ebc58a12fd659e38d0b9f0ff6fc0194f933be@i2pn2.org> <vl88v4$3qtjc$5@dont-email.me> <ecf6965f78c9152b3fff0d3b18d7df0247100acf@i2pn2.org> <vl9605$3vk27$5@dont-email.me> <9a25e92033e0a4d24e9c27df0de95d8b033d0862@i2pn2.org> <vlasro$cr0k$1@dont-email.me> <a676a0802d5bdf15dd22a1f8cd5072893b6e1e33@i2pn2.org> <vldn14$vlah$2@dont-email.me> <171d790a8a99fa28e5b849e2726d1c9c0f93d932@i2pn2.org> <vlefcq$14esf$7@dont-email.me> <51593821cf96cef1e5f8c4d1cf692dc145064429@i2pn2.org> <vlenld$1686e$1@dont-email.me> <a7f1132ebfd75ea109677673504c18cb810f5406@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 18:57:49 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1858afcca4cf10199f24512bd9be19ae"; logging-data="1826453"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+UZ/meIC2R6pq9594fiN+TPTEexU/6DIg=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:qyR+WJPZnrLY3XJo4Ljw0Grj8OE= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <a7f1132ebfd75ea109677673504c18cb810f5406@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 3037 On 06.01.2025 13:28, Richard Damon wrote: > On 1/5/25 2:47 PM, WM wrote: >> You said that I never used all FISONs. But I do. All are insufficient. > > No, you DON'T use all. Because ALL has an infinite number of members, All are less than |ℕ|/10000. > and you need to process them one by one, I do not process them but use my theorem: Every union of FISONs which stay below a certain threshold stays below that threshold. >>> but your claim doesn't match your conclusion, as the union of *ALL* >>> the FISIONs will reach the size of the Natural Numbers, even though >>> no finite subset reaches a measurable percentage of it. >>> >> How do they do it? Do one or more FISONs grow during the union >> process? (One would be sufficient.) > > Nope, they are just infinite in number. The set of all rationals between 0 and 1 is also infinite in number. That is not an argument for their union to reach |ℕ|. Regards, WM