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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer Subject: Re: OT: Windows (Was: Re: Open Source does not mean easily Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2025 08:36:29 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: <vlip2c$24ccb$1@dont-email.me> References: <uu54la$3su5b$6@dont-email.me> <vlecm0$1465i$1@dont-email.me> <vlesf3$1ck$1@reader2.panix.com> <vlg4mb$1hi6d$1@dont-email.me> <vlgo5c$cig$1@reader2.panix.com> <vlgots$1le5s$1@dont-email.me> <1jSeP.17355$jUJ9.3923@fx08.iad> <vlgud7$1mgh5$1@dont-email.me> <4OTeP.44026$vfee.5216@fx45.iad> Injection-Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2025 09:36:29 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8c5e3bb50f8ae50dc4390f343511cdc4"; logging-data="2240907"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18Bnouk+zqtgaQGyFIaVkab" Cancel-Lock: sha1:Mep7wuU/wgGUaha+pUKtETNm+AY= Bytes: 2296 On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 16:46:56 GMT scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wibbled: >Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org writes: >>On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 15:05:33 GMT >>scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wibbled: >>>Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org writes: >>>>In Windows yes, which frankly is probably not a coincidence. Not so much >>>>in unix unless you're writing a GUI program. >>> >>>ASTs and unix signals have similar semantics. It's certainly possible to >>>use, for example, SIGIO in a similar manner to the VMS AST, where the >>>AST signals I/O completion and the AST handler initiates a subsequent >>>operation. >> >>Unix signals should only be used to set flags that are then read later. > >You're opinion is not widely shared. Note that the POSIX specification >carefully notes which interfaces are not signal-safe. ITYF it is VERY widely shared and having a signal safe API function is only step 2 - plenty of the functions in the program itself or 3rd party library functions are probably not re-entrant safe and even if they are, having code stomp over itself - eg if in the middle of writing a log message then a signal is generated which tried to write a log message itself - is a very poor way to write code.