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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2025 04:40:54 -0500 Organization: Peripheral Visions Lines: 22 Message-ID: <vlisr9$251u5$1@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <vk8tbq$j9h1$1@dont-email.me> <bd7dfdc7-6471-4fe6-b078-0ca739031580@att.net> <vklumc$3htmt$1@dont-email.me> <c03cf79d-0572-4b19-ad92-a0d12df53db9@att.net> <vkp0fv$b7ki$2@dont-email.me> <b125beff-cb76-4e5a-b8b8-e4c57ff468e9@att.net> <vkr8j0$t59a$1@dont-email.me> <98519289-0542-40ce-886e-b50b401ef8cf@att.net> <vksicn$16oaq$7@dont-email.me> <8e95dfce-05e7-4d31-b8f0-43bede36dc9b@att.net> <vl1ckt$2b4hr$1@dont-email.me> <53d93728-3442-4198-be92-5c9abe8a0a72@att.net> <vl5tds$39tut$1@dont-email.me> <9c18a839-9ab4-4778-84f2-481c77444254@att.net> <vl87n4$3qnct$1@dont-email.me> <8ef20494f573dc131234363177017bf9d6b647ee@i2pn2.org> <vl95ks$3vk27$2@dont-email.me> <vl9ldf$3796$1@dont-email.me> <vlaskd$cr0l$2@dont-email.me> <vlc68u$k8so$1@dont-email.me> <vldpj7$vlah$7@dont-email.me> <a8b010b748782966268688a38b58fe1a9b4cc087@i2pn2.org> <vlei6e$14nve$1@dont-email.me> <66868399-5c4b-4816-9a0c-369aaa824553@att.net> <vlir7p$24c51$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: erratic.howard@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2025 10:40:58 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="df955ad94a3e4de7fcea6199322f49c9"; logging-data="2262981"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+uLR0NYM6T/Q6B02dCgzyMhgo7TxPy5sA=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:DwZDAdpGWpp3A+UH65DgcYRbzDE= X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-gb X-ICQ: 1701145376 Bytes: 2636 WM has brought this to us : > On 06.01.2025 23:43, Jim Burns wrote: >> On 1/5/2025 1:14 PM, WM wrote: > >>> ℕ cannot be covered by FISONs, >>> neither by many nor by their union. >>> If ℕ could be covered by FISONs >>> then one would be sufficient. >> >> ℕ is the set of finite.ordinals. >> ℕ holds each finite ordinal. >> ℕ holds only finite.ordinals. > >>ℕ| is by definition the smallest transfinite number, larger than every > natural number by every visible factor. >> >> k ∈ ℕ ⇒ k+1 ∈ ℕ >> is true for both the darkᵂᴹ and the visibleᵂᴹ. > > One exception exists: ω-1. Which remains undefined.