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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2025 11:20:40 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 25 Message-ID: <vliv5n$256n9$1@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <vk8tbq$j9h1$1@dont-email.me> <bd7dfdc7-6471-4fe6-b078-0ca739031580@att.net> <vklumc$3htmt$1@dont-email.me> <c03cf79d-0572-4b19-ad92-a0d12df53db9@att.net> <vkp0fv$b7ki$2@dont-email.me> <b125beff-cb76-4e5a-b8b8-e4c57ff468e9@att.net> <vkr8j0$t59a$1@dont-email.me> <98519289-0542-40ce-886e-b50b401ef8cf@att.net> <vksicn$16oaq$7@dont-email.me> <8e95dfce-05e7-4d31-b8f0-43bede36dc9b@att.net> <vl1ckt$2b4hr$1@dont-email.me> <53d93728-3442-4198-be92-5c9abe8a0a72@att.net> <vl5tds$39tut$1@dont-email.me> <9c18a839-9ab4-4778-84f2-481c77444254@att.net> <vl87n4$3qnct$1@dont-email.me> <8ef20494f573dc131234363177017bf9d6b647ee@i2pn2.org> <vl95ks$3vk27$2@dont-email.me> <vl9ldf$3796$1@dont-email.me> <vlaskd$cr0l$2@dont-email.me> <vlc68u$k8so$1@dont-email.me> <vldpj7$vlah$7@dont-email.me> <a8b010b748782966268688a38b58fe1a9b4cc087@i2pn2.org> <vlei6e$14nve$1@dont-email.me> <66868399-5c4b-4816-9a0c-369aaa824553@att.net> <4iKdnULFG5CGGOH6nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2025 11:20:40 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ae605ac3e7bf74a89532ac4e88c94750"; logging-data="2267881"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19BfM2kf23lSq/LyQYU0o9+ckCDhDr3VM4=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:eYG2wpX5XZLeDa2TYuuOy4j+N8c= In-Reply-To: <4iKdnULFG5CGGOH6nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2835 On 07.01.2025 02:36, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 01/06/2025 02:43 PM, Jim Burns wrote: >> It would be great if you (WM) did NOT >> find lemma 1 weird, >> but it is what it is. It is not weird. But your conclusions are weird. > The inductive set being covered by > initial segments is an _axiom_ of ZF. And the existence of the set ℕ is also an axiom of ZF. Therefore ZF is incompatible with mathematics. |ℕ| is a fixed quantity larger than every n, by any factor, for instance by the factor 100. All FISONs stay below the threshold |ℕ|/100, or in other words, multiplication of any FISON by 100 is insufficient to cover |ℕ|. Every union of FISONs {1, 2, 3, ..., n} which stay below this threshold stays below this threshold too. Regards, WM