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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: More about RCS. Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2025 13:42:51 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: <vljb0r$27nae$1@dont-email.me> References: <vcmenj5cvbs3u0ir6k9upuvhat8t9vm7rc@4ax.com> <vl7u9o$1o6iu$1@solani.org> <6snfnj5880vigl6guglovgq28nr3pl1tp4@4ax.com> <ltr698FcivtU1@mid.individual.net> <e2hm4lxss3.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <ltvadcF1tepU7@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2025 14:42:52 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="248eb98219b161cd243279de1cdd96c4"; logging-data="2350414"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+6Hk/x3m/fqpHxFK/WqtgbShXA6CvJbNg=" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:VwnJ2YQcq86FwR7Qxox6xvp679g= sha1:cDa7mYVfcMymZip1CD753SAqyuQ= Bytes: 2529 Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote: > Carlos E.R., 2025-01-04 02:55: > >> On 2025-01-03 23:22, Arno Welzel wrote: > [... >>> Messengers on the other hand are mostly proprietary non-federated >>> services like WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, Threema etc. which use servers >>> of the respective provider (like Meta in the case of WhatsApp) and they >>> send messages using these servers. You also can not send message from >>> WhatsApp to Signal or Threema. If you have friends using Threema you >>> either also need a Threema account or you have to convince your friends >>> to join the messenger service you use yourself. >> >> Whereas SMS is guaranteed to exist on any (mobile) phone. > > Yes - but it is not guaranteed any longer to be delivered. It never was. It was developed as a neat trick to use up spare capacity in the network protocols. If there's high demand an SMS may not get delivered or take a long time to be received. > At least in > Germany I experienced it more than once that SMS from one provider to > another did not get delivered to the recipient. Since providers don't > earn extra money for SMS any longer, they tend not to care about > interoperability any longer. Providers haven't made money from SMS for a long time. It's been bundled as "unlimited" in pretty much all types of contracts.