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From: Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org>
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Subject: Re: What Did You Watch? 2025-01-04 (Saturday)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2025 06:45:51 -0800
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On 1/7/2025 2:46 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>> On 1/6/2025 9:55 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>> On the final weekend of my staycation I did some much needed straitening
>>>> up while I also continued to make my way through selected animated films
>>>> in my collection.  I watched:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Heavy Metal (4K disc) 1981 R-rated animated anthology film.  Each
>>>> segment tells a different story featuring an evil glowing green ball.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I actually watched them film three of the segments from this at Wally
>>> Bulloch’s Anicam where they were shooting a job of mine at the same time.
>>>
>>> If I recall correctly, one of the segments, they forgot to put in the green
>>> glowing ball at all, and nobody ever notices.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> It's in all of them, but sometimes its' presence is tangential at best.
>> In particular the B-17 bomber segment the ball is almost an
>> afterthought. And in the Pentagon segment it sets things in motion, but
>> then it's forgotten.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Titan A.E. (DVD) Don Bluth directed this  2000 animated sci-fi epic
>>>
>>> I refused to work on it way back when it was still called treasure planet
>>> and had a different Director.
>>
>> Disney came out with a Treasure Planet movie two years later.  Any relation?
>>
> 
> Yes, Fox was ripping them off.
> 
> Somehow the story got out that Disney was canceling their plans to make
> treasure planet and Fox immediately jumped on it, even though they didn’t
> own the script Disney was using. And Disney immediately pointed out that
> the rumors were false and they hadn’t canceled treasure planet at all, but
> Fox decided to go ahead anyway.
> 

And the interesting thing is, Titan came out two years earlier, so 
everyone would have thought Disney was ripping off Fox.  It would have 
been worse if Fox's version was better than Disney's version.  And I do 
prefer "Titan" over Treasure planet by a lot.


> Bluth wouldn’t let the new Director in the building and so they just hired
> a bunch of people in my department to paint inspirational stuff at random
> and shipped to the art to California where the Director would say yes or no
> to any given image.
> 
> One day they asked for my opinion of the model spaceship they built. They
> had taken a model kit of the seaQuest DSV and stuck masts on it from a
> model of the HMS bounty. I told them that’s exactly what it looked like
> they had done. They insisted you couldn’t tell it was the seaQuest because
> the seaQuest model, they had turned upside down and the masts were actually
> sticking out of its belly. I pointed out that except for very minor details
> the seaQuest looks exactly the same right side up as upside down.
> 
> https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/seaquest-schematics-1-png.258202/
> 
> So now they were ripping off both Disney and Spielberg. I didn’t want to
> come anywhere near being caught in the middle of that!
> 


There's an extra on the Cool World disc where Bakshi talks about the 
making of the movie.  And they showed the same thing, "inspirational" 
art designs that never made the movie. And some of those drawings were 
*clearly* ripping off Who Framed Roger Rabbit.  They didn't need to pay 
someone to draw those images, they could have just taken screen shots 
from "Rabbit" and it would have been the same thing.