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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2025 13:14:00 -0500 Organization: None Lines: 77 Message-ID: <vljqt8$2amtn$2@dont-email.me> References: <vkjmdg$30kff$1@dont-email.me> <ltmbcmFjcgpU1@mid.individual.net> <ba6263f8-1e7f-5eb1-ae06-757f2ed7a018@example.net> <lto9qbFso18U3@mid.individual.net> <slrnvnegk1.2cl6d.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> <8b262a1f-507f-ef10-e4d3-a981dca5b7d1@example.net> <vl8jdq$3st6d$1@dont-email.me> <vl8jul$3sqfa$4@dont-email.me> <vl8otk$3splv$3@dont-email.me> <vl8qm7$3u6t2$1@dont-email.me> <vl93dl$3vkun$1@dont-email.me> <vl9449$3vo6h$3@dont-email.me> <vl9aov$pp7$1@dont-email.me> <vla4hr$5n4v$1@dont-email.me> <vlblqj$harb$1@dont-email.me> <lttopaFoh2cU8@mid.individual.net> <vle8uk$12sii$2@dont-email.me> <c686fb74-4fac-0809-7005-417c76ee0e3b@example.net> <nbReP.633803$oR74.271654@fx16.iad> <vlgrb0$1lsdi$1@dont-email.me> <4RVeP.812124$bYV2.164030@fx17.iad> <vlh9oi$1oqb2$1@dont-email.me> <vlhhes$1q4t2$2@dont-email.me> <RWYeP.56817$vfee.53192@fx45.iad> <vljb2o$27g6v$5@dont-email.me> <XHafP.16926$G93a.13818@fx05.iad> <vljkk3$29dna$3@dont-email.me> <kVcfP.505626$0O61.228231@fx15.iad> Reply-To: OFeem1987@teleworm.us MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2025 19:14:01 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c298176630129186bd966a2f0c3dc160"; logging-data="2448311"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18JIhFznJdZxP/ELqJRdX2m" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:AJOrt2YqhlntUYikx1hlpR+nrog= X-User-Agent: Microsoft Outl00k, Usenet K00k Editions X-Face: 63n<76,LYJQ2m#'5YL#.T95xqyPiG`ffIP70tN+j"(&@6(4l\7uL)2+/-r0)/9SjZ`qw= Njn mr93Xrerx}aQG-Ap5IHn"xe;`5:pp"$RH>Kx_ngWw%c\+6qSg!q"41n2[.N/;Pu6q8?+Poz~e A9? $6_R7cm.l!s8]yfv7x+-FYQ|/k X-Slrn: Why use anything else? X-Mutt: The most widely-used MUA Bytes: 5844 Andrzej Matuch wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: > On 2025-01-07 11:26, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >> Andrzej Matuch wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: >> >>> On 2025-01-07 08:43, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: >>>> >>>>> On 2025-01-06 16:20, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>> The Natural Philosopher wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 06/01/2025 19:06, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2025-01-06 10:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 06/01/2025 13:49, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >>>>>>>>>> The way they sell it, warming means a lesser availability of fresh >>>>>>>>>> water. Obviously, this would result in people dying. With cooling >>>>>>>>>> though, there would be a decreased availability of food in general, >>>>>>>>>> so I don't see how one is worse than the other. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Except the narrative says that all of greenland will melt. That's a >>>>>>>>> fuck of a lot of fresh water >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If all of Greenland will melt, the people who are suddenly >>>>>>>> inconvenienced by the world's warming could move there and turn the >>>>>>>> continent-like country into something inhabitable for the first time in >>>>>>>> thousands of years. I imagine that as a result of it never really being >>>>>>>> used for agriculture, that land is incredibly fertile. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not wrong there. In fact huge areas of Canadian, Alaskan and Siberian >>>>>>> tundra would be really quite nice places to live. Scarcely worse than >>>>>>> Scotland >>>>>> >>>>>> Except for buildings and equipment sinking into the melting tundra :-D >>>>> >>>>> There is soil underneath all of that, Chris. >>>> >>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/u-s-military-sees-growing-threat-in-thawing-permafrost/ >>>> >>>> Climate change is rapidly altering the Arctic landscape, in particular the >>>> permafrost that serves as a foundation for buildings across the region. >>>> Warming temperatures are thawing out the frozen ground, and in the process >>>> it is threatening to unsettle structures that were built decades ago. >>> >>> "... that were built decades ago." How many buildings have been erected >>> decades ago in the waste known as Greenland? Even in Quebec where the >>> north is settled to a degree, the amount of buildings in existence is >>> minimal because the population is itself tiny. >>> >>>> That's particularly worrisome for the U.S. military, which maintains >>>> facilities across the Arctic region. And it's one reason Hicks embarked on >>>> a two-day tour of the nation’s northernmost military bases. >>>> >>>> “Building and maintaining infrastructure — like runways — on permafrost >>>> presents unique challenges for Arctic nations — which are growing with the >>>> effects of climate change,” Hicks wrote in a Twitter post on Monday. >>> >>> Once there is no longer permafrost, those challenges will be eradicated too. >> >> And replacement structures will be built/rebuilt. >> >> And that doesn't include methane release. > > I don't mind if the people building new structure fart a time or two. Do > you, Chris? Cut the patronizing crap. -- If I don't drive around the park, I'm pretty sure to make my mark. If I'm in bed each night by ten, I may get back my looks again. If I abstain from fun and such, I'll probably amount to much; But I shall stay the way I am, Because I do not give a damn. -- Dorothy Parker