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From: FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org>
Newsgroups: sci.math
Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary)
Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2025 15:08:50 -0500
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WM was thinking very hard :
> On 07.01.2025 15:05, FromTheRafters wrote:
>> WM wrote :
>>> On 07.01.2025 10:51, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>
>>>> First several von Neumann ordinals
>>>
>>> v. Neumann was bright but not bright enough.
>>> Why should we use the nomenclature of his disproven theory?
>>
>> Disproven?
>>
>>>> 0 = {} = ∅
>>>> 1 = {0} = {∅}
>>>> 2 = {0,1} = {∅,{∅}}
>>>> 3 = {0,1,2} = {∅,{∅},{∅,{∅}}}
>>>> 4 = {0,1,2,3} = {∅,{∅},{∅,{∅}},{∅,{∅},{∅,{∅}}}}
>>>> =====================================
>>>>
>>>> Notice they start at zero (emptyset)
>>>
>>> It would be more important to reach the full set.
>>
>> It does, in the infinite union.
>
> It does not because the infinite union cannot be larger than every unioned
> FISON.
Just because you saya so?
> Every unioned FISON is smaller than any definable fraction of the full
> set ℕ.
So what?