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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Outdated Policy Nonsense by Stackexchange Farts (Re: For a 100th Time Fuck Stackexchange) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 11:32:30 +0100 Message-ID: <vllk7s$205fd$2@solani.org> References: <vlkg1f$1vh4j$3@solani.org> <vllibt$2047v$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 10:32:28 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="2102765"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.19 Cancel-Lock: sha1:7wE1N3747KK+G/LfX+nukNk3qY8= X-User-ID: eJwFwQkBACAIBLBK/EgcD6F/BDfX4Oi08DBf36onZBe3LXFAllXjiSeiu8tJOokxUUHpWHMfP8sExWuRD1RnFYs= In-Reply-To: <vllibt$2047v$1@solani.org> Bytes: 4118 Lines: 94 Hi, How it started (simple vision): "Once you have a truly massive amount of information integrated as knowledge, then the human-software system will be superhuman, in the same sense that mankind with writing is superhuman compared to mankind before writing." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Lenat#Quotes Isn't a Q&A site also a human-software system? How its going (outdated nonsense): The content you provide must either be your own original work, or your summary of the properly referenced work of others. [...] Generative artificial intelligence tools are not capable of citing the sources of knowledge used up to the standards of the Stack Exchange network. https://math.stackexchange.com/help/gen-ai-policy LoL, they are morons. They don't understand how LLM use RAG nowadays. Was ist Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG)? https://aws.amazon.com/de/what-is/retrieval-augmented-generation/ Bye Mild Shock schrieb: > I upvoted this question: > > Curry-Howard Correspondence using Smullyan's bird forests > https://math.stackexchange.com/q/1927260/1482376 > > And made an answer. > > Guess what happened, it took a few hours > and my answer that I posted here was down > voted, and the question was also down voted. > > Looking at it again after a 8 hours > the question was again down voted. Thats > why I don't use stackexchange anymore, only ChatGPT. > > You can ask ChatGPT with no problem: > > https://chatgpt.com/share/677e4ab2-8808-8013-b1ce-740889795507 > > You're absolutely right—there are no mockingbirds > in Simply Typed Lambda Calculus because mockingbirds, > as described in To Mock a Mockingbird, mimic other > birds. Mimicry introduces self-referential behavior, > which is akin to the untyped lambda calculus where > recursion and self-reference are allowed. > > In Simply Typed Lambda Calculus, the forest is stricter: > > Every bird has a fixed type and follows specific > rules about whom it can sing to and what kind of > song it can produce. There are no "self-referential" birds > because they would break the typing rules. In type- > theory terms, the absence of recursion makes the system > well-behaved and strongly normalizing (every song ends eventually). > > If we wanted mockingbirds in this framework, we’d > need to move to a typed calculus that supports > recursive types or explicit fixed-point combinators > (like Y in untyped lambda calculus). Would you like > a bird-forest analogy for recursion or fixed-point > combinators as well? > > Mild Shock schrieb: >> Hi, >> >> Now you can listen to Bird songs for a minute: >> >> 2016 Dana Scott gave a talk honoring Raymond Smullyan >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omz6SbUpFQ8 >> >> A little quiz: >> >> Q: And also on the Curry-Howard Isomorphism. Is >> there a nice way to put it in bird-forest form like To >> Mock a Mocking Bird. This book made everything so >> simple and intuitive for me. >> >> A: Hardly, because xx has no simple type. >> >> Right? >> >> Bye >