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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 17:48:45 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 22 Message-ID: <vloule$3eqsr$1@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <vksicn$16oaq$7@dont-email.me> <8e95dfce-05e7-4d31-b8f0-43bede36dc9b@att.net> <vl1ckt$2b4hr$1@dont-email.me> <53d93728-3442-4198-be92-5c9abe8a0a72@att.net> <vl5tds$39tut$1@dont-email.me> <9c18a839-9ab4-4778-84f2-481c77444254@att.net> <vl87n4$3qnct$1@dont-email.me> <8ef20494f573dc131234363177017bf9d6b647ee@i2pn2.org> <vl95ks$3vk27$2@dont-email.me> <vl9ldf$3796$1@dont-email.me> <vlaskd$cr0l$2@dont-email.me> <vlc68u$k8so$1@dont-email.me> <vldpj7$vlah$7@dont-email.me> <a8b010b748782966268688a38b58fe1a9b4cc087@i2pn2.org> <vlei6e$14nve$1@dont-email.me> <66868399-5c4b-4816-9a0c-369aaa824553@att.net> <vlir7p$24c51$1@dont-email.me> <417ff6da-86ee-4b3a-b07a-9c6a8eb31368@att.net> <vllfof$2n0uj$2@dont-email.me> <07258ab9-eee1-4aae-902a-ba39247d5942@att.net> <vlmst2$2vjr0$3@dont-email.me> <1ebbc233d6bab7878b69cae3eda48c7bbfd07f88@i2pn2.org> <vlo5f4$39hil$2@dont-email.me> <4c89380adaad983f24d5d6a75842aaabbd1adced@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2025 17:48:46 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b41210a41b326ea9ff9828852c168fb2"; logging-data="3632027"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/6RFkM1sMRwgpaEKsV8t/PaOJGeR6tyV0=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:SWJVEqDDL6lsdWFV3TcIOW8JjtY= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <4c89380adaad983f24d5d6a75842aaabbd1adced@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 2971 On 09.01.2025 13:17, Richard Damon wrote: > On 1/9/25 4:38 AM, WM wrote: >> On 09.01.2025 00:45, joes wrote: >>> Am Wed, 08 Jan 2025 23:06:27 +0100 schrieb WM: >> >>>> The set {1, 2, 3, ...} is smaller by one element than the set {0, 1, 2, >>>> 3, ...}. Proof: {0, 1, 2, 3, ...} \ {1, 2, 3, ...} = {0}. Cardinality >>>> cannot describe this difference because it covers only mappings of >>>> elements which have almost all elements as successors. >>> You can't talk about size without using |abs|. >> >> I can and I do. And everybody understands it in case of subsets. This >> proves, in this special case (and more is not required), that Cantor's >> size is only a qualitative measure, not a quantitative one. > Sorry it *IS* true, It is true that {1, 2, 3, ...} is a set and {0, 1, 2, 3, ...} is a greater set. Your hysteric moaning cannot change that. Regards, WM