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From: Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
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Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 15:32:01 -0500
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rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 07:40:40 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>> 
>>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 13:03:40 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> Race isn't a nature concept, its obviously a sociological and
>>>> political construct, and fluid to some extent.
>>>
>>> If you have a E-V38 Y chromosome I'm guessing you can't pass for a
>>> Swede.
>> 
>> Which race of dog have you owned?
>> 
>> There's far more variation between dog breeds than between human
>> "races".
>
> You really want to go there? Would you rather have a lab or a pit bull 
> minding the kids? Humans have had their thumbs on the scales but their 
> breeding attempts have resulted in a wide range of breeds with differing 
> characteristics. In the case of humans, it was natural selection for the 
> most part although in many cultures a preference for lighter skin 
> prevailed. 

So what? I'm talking about categorization by "race".

> Would you prefer 'breed' to race? Then you could call people breedists. 
> How about subspecies? 

Talk about going off on a tangent. 

> Let's look at the keeper of absolute truth.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(biology)
>
> "Races may be genetically distinct populations of individuals within the 
> same species,[4] or they may be defined in other ways, e.g. 
> geographically, or physiologically"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_categorization)

    Race is a categorization of humans based on shared physical or social
    qualities into groups generally viewed as distinct within a given
    society. The term came into common usage during the 16th century, when
    it was used to refer to groups of various kinds, including those
    characterized by close kinship relations. By the 17th century, the term
    began to refer to physical (phenotypical) traits, and then later to
    national affiliations. Modern science regards race as a social construct,
    an identity which is assigned based on rules made by society.
    While partly based on physical similarities within groups, race does not
    have an inherent physical or biological meaning. The concept of
    race is foundational to racism, the belief that humans can be divided based
    on the superiority of one race over another.

    Social conceptions and groupings of races have varied over time, often
    involving folk taxonomies that define essential types of individuals based
    on perceived traits. Modern scientists consider such biological
    essentialism obsolete, and generally discourage racial explanations for
    collective differentiation in both physical and behavioral traits.

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