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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Rene Herse "New type of tire" Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 20:06:46 -0600 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 59 Message-ID: <vlpvbn$3kf8q$2@dont-email.me> References: <vlkdtc$2ebju$1@dont-email.me> <lu6o4nF9morU1@mid.individual.net> <vlm7jj$2rl7f$1@dont-email.me> <6rdtnj5r4l7vscbpb60ca789j1oapqbtj3@4ax.com> <vlmn6b$2uovb$1@dont-email.me> <vlmpin$2v3cs$1@dont-email.me> <dgkvnjtchs6ach83hvkhjuf62nvv9l4u3p@4ax.com> <vlov5g$3eqpt$2@dont-email.me> <vlp2jh$3fft1$1@dont-email.me> <bf50oj1b446amfg4qile1o9i0tpcrc4mcj@4ax.com> <vlp6pf$3gbv2$1@dont-email.me> <vlps4h$3k5ju$1@dont-email.me> <vlpt5e$3kf8q$1@dont-email.me> <vlpv50$3kqcr$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 03:06:47 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b8de645d513a2ad9887e72a05266e6db"; logging-data="3816730"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX180E9cqGyDbHxw2tCzGUoPm" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:+LY8B3yh6ob6ZCw4nu/ET92Eees= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vlpv50$3kqcr$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3446 On 1/9/2025 8:03 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: > On 1/9/2025 8:29 PM, AMuzi wrote: >> On 1/9/2025 7:11 PM, sms wrote: >>> On 1/9/2025 11:07 AM, AMuzi wrote: >>> >>> <snip> >>> >>>> A library full of economics theses have been written on >>>> the various theories, practices, successes, failures and >>>> (because they are economists) formulae of pricing (for >>>> products and for services) >>> >>> Pricing is indeed an art. >>> >>> "Why Popcorn Costs So Much at the Movies: And Other >>> Pricing Puzzles" >>> <https://www.amazon.com/dp/0387769994> >>> >>> The semiconductor company I worked for sent a bunch of >>> the engineers to a two week crash course in business at a >>> university in Canada, a course which concentrated a lot >>> on pricing. >>> >>> Outcomes: >>> >>> 1. We would not introduce any product where the margin at >>> introduction was less than 60%. Margins could fall as the >>> product aged. >>> >>> 2. We would not subsidize new low-margin products with >>> expected revenue from higher-margin products. >>> >>> 3. We would not let customers bully us on price. In the >>> past, one customer wanted to pay a price based on the >>> number of transistors on the die, and kept asking us "how >>> many transistors are in the part. Another customer wanted >>> a guarantee that we would not sell the same part to any >>> other customer for a lower price. Nope and nope. >> >> +1 >> The ancillary aspects (beyond design, tooling, production >> and delivery costs) are often, in fact usually, critical. >> >> Price something too high and volume drops while >> competitors emerge. Price it too low and your business folds. > > And again, https://www.cbsnews.com/news/payless-sold- > discount-shoes-at-luxury-prices-and-it-worked/ > OK that's cool. I enjoy a good practical joke as much as the next guy. But a stunt is not a business plan. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971