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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: RE: Re: Higher Education Is Overrated Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 15:20:49 -0600 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 114 Message-ID: <vls2vh$78rv$2@dont-email.me> References: <g93ecjtrrifgc697ak5eak0ja6ga0k7282@4ax.com> <hq5ecjtk7j4ootq85ghpmp88vumdc4g7fv@4ax.com> <va7f61$efcb$7@dont-email.me> <jXfgP.79026$qu83.56306@fx35.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 22:20:49 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b8de645d513a2ad9887e72a05266e6db"; logging-data="238463"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18n6AlZkD1dDR9mWZWhPotx" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:b9ZeabCMKtUa/QHCchm8bbUMrVg= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <jXfgP.79026$qu83.56306@fx35.iad> Bytes: 6149 On 1/10/2025 3:04 PM, cyclintom wrote: > On Thu Aug 22 08:41:20 2024 AMuzi wrote: >> On 8/22/2024 6:42 AM, John B. wrote: >>> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 06:04:55 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> https://hbr.org/2010/07/higher-education-is-highly-ove >>> >>> The problem is that "higher education" has come to mean "collage >>> education" when in fact it should be seen as any advanced knowledge. >>> >>> A rather vivid example is the English Bowman of the 1300's and 1400s >>> were able to win battles against much larger and much better equipped >>> French forces.The Battle of Crcy took place on 26 August 1346 between >>> an English army of from 7,000 to 15,000 (data was somewhat poor in >>> those days) was able to defeat an army of from 20,000 - 30,000 French >>> who were equipped with far better equipment. Loses on the English side >>> was in the region of 1 for every 13-15 French who were killed. >>> >>> In the Battle of Agincourt about 100 year later 6,000 to 8,000 English >>> took on some 14,000?15,000 French and beat them again with about 600 >>> English losses versus 6,000 French losses, and 600 - 2,000 captured. >>> >>> While the difference in formal education was probably not great, among >>> the Gentry, the English had a program to encourage archery and boys >>> might start archery training as early as 10 years of age and there was >>> a "government program" to manufacture archery supplies, bows and >>> arrows. >>> >>> By the way, for anyone that cares the "English Long Bow" might better >>> be called the Welch Long Bow" as it is though it originated in that >>> country(s). >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> Thanks. Beyond that, I pointed out here (and elsewhere) on >> Russia's invasion of Ukraine that they had a really crappy >> army as they are mostly short-term conscripts, treated badly >> in general and lacking career noncoms and warrant officers. >> This is a nontrivial point regarding education and training >> often called 'institutional memory'. Until recently our own >> forces were especially effective, with highly skilled >> noncoms, warrant officers and field officers not only well >> trained but also given more latitude in decision making than >> others, especially the Russian army. Which is why they have >> lost so many flag officers in the past few years; they do >> not have a competent career field officer and noncom base. > > > > > But I would like to make the point that the Ukraine is now a totalitarian state that Biden had been pumping billions into and the OMLY adult in the room is Putin. Were this Stalin we would be in WW 3. ?? If Zelensky were Stalin, the Ukranian kleptocrats would be shot instead of buying luxury cars with our tax dollars. Your WW III reference makes no sense. In Version II, Stalin, an ally at the time, prevailed with significant US materiel (and some contributions from Britain & Canada). The outcome would certainly have been much slower, if at all, without those 'beans, bullets and band aids'. "Britain supplied 5,800 planes, 4,292 tanks, and 12 minesweepers. Canada supplied 1,188 tanks, 842 armoured cars, nearly one million shells, and 208,000 tons of wheat and flour. Source :-http://www.infoukes.com/history/ww2/page-09.htm The USA supplied:- Aircraft-----------------------14795 Tanks.................................7,056 Jeeps................................51,503 Trucks..............................375,883 Motorcycles..........................35,170 Tractors..............................8,071 Guns..................................8,218 Machine guns........................131,633 Explosives..........................345,735 tons Building equipment valued.......$10,910,000 Railroad freight cars................11,155 Locomotives...........................1,981 Cargo ships..............................90 Submarine hunters.......................105 Torpedo boats...........................197 Ship engines..........................7,784 Food supplies.....................4,478,000 tons Machines and equipment.......$1,078,965,000 Noniron metals......................802,000 tons Petroleum products................2,670,000 tons Chemicals...........................842,000 tons Cotton..........................106,893,000 tons Leather..............................49,860 tons Tires.............................3,786,000 Army boots.......................15,417,000 pairs" Of special note on that last item, winter warfare without amply built winter boots is a notorious crippler of infantry. Besides all that, we ran a huge fuel operation out of Iran for the Soviets. One of my uncles was an officer there at the time. And regarding Britain, FDR blocked a shipment of aircraft intended for the defense of Singapore to Russia at the last minute. Britons know how that went for the defenders. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971