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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 22:38:51 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <vls41b$7v2k$1@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <vl87n4$3qnct$1@dont-email.me> <8ef20494f573dc131234363177017bf9d6b647ee@i2pn2.org> <vl95ks$3vk27$2@dont-email.me> <vl9ldf$3796$1@dont-email.me> <vlaskd$cr0l$2@dont-email.me> <vlc68u$k8so$1@dont-email.me> <vldpj7$vlah$7@dont-email.me> <a8b010b748782966268688a38b58fe1a9b4cc087@i2pn2.org> <vlei6e$14nve$1@dont-email.me> <66868399-5c4b-4816-9a0c-369aaa824553@att.net> <vlir7p$24c51$1@dont-email.me> <417ff6da-86ee-4b3a-b07a-9c6a8eb31368@att.net> <vllfof$2n0uj$2@dont-email.me> <07258ab9-eee1-4aae-902a-ba39247d5942@att.net> <vlmst2$2vjr0$3@dont-email.me> <ff1fe002014bf5951a98e2061cb63ad93976a808@i2pn2.org> <vlofv2$3akpn$1@dont-email.me> <9f6faf842a0202b345f3912fe352044dfabfc56d@i2pn2.org> <vlrhb0$2m5j$1@dont-email.me> <5e1c366f8e2cfe7f5439f3d2bb65d4695d17c6b9@i2pn2.org> <vlrkv7$5ent$1@dont-email.me> <e47acb80f38537e615ac913cfec68cf6d7d498ae@i2pn2.org> <vlrroh$6ovc$2@dont-email.me> <2c1e0afa5652b5f139abcda8822ac14ccc939f2b@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 22:38:51 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a12feca4b63260bf3dc579b800add305"; logging-data="261204"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX182OTUb1ZggkWEfJ7RZfoWdAegqE1DzBZs=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:0ww4pGo1AMWUjumY1ksra5TP0G0= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <2c1e0afa5652b5f139abcda8822ac14ccc939f2b@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 3116 On 10.01.2025 21:06, joes wrote: > Am Fri, 10 Jan 2025 20:17:37 +0100 schrieb WM: >> On 10.01.2025 19:28, joes wrote: >>> Am Fri, 10 Jan 2025 18:21:43 +0100 schrieb WM: >> >>>> I have no expectations about cardinality. I know that for every finite >>>> initial segment the even numbers are about half of the natural >>>> numbers. >>>> This does not change anywhere. It is true up to every natural number. >>> You wrongly expect this to hold in the infinite. >> No, I expect it is true for all natural numbers, none of which is >> infinite. > But it is true for every natural Of course. Otherwise you would have to find a counterexample. > (if you formalise it correctly)! Irrelevant. ∀n ∈ ℕ: |{1, 2, 3, ..., 2n}|/|{2, 4, 6, ..., 2n}| = 2. > That doesn't make it true for N and G. I am not interested in these letters but only in all natural numbers. All natural numbers are twice as many as all even natural numbers. If your N and G denote all natural numbers and all even numbers, then 2 is true also for them. Regards, WM